On my hands and knees begging!

[Katella_Avenlea]

Nothing can ruin community except player attitude. Especially in a game that no one even talks in public chat, i have never seen such a quiet game in my life, believe me, the "community" with pretty much ls only line of thinking has already began to "destroy" the feel of ff.

dungeon finder in no way can destroy anything. it may open up alot of opportunities to more people who happen to be in very small ls.(yup those ppl are just as important to the game, sorry but they are) ^^ and for those in a huge ls, dont use this feature /solved, so why even be concerned.

i see no harm in it. use it and love it or choose not to, take the 2 min run to a dungeon with your friends only if you prefer. either is a win depending on your playstyle or preferances. choice is always there.

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You don't have to use it if you don't want. If you are fortunate enough to have a huge LS that is on the same content you are, more power to you. You are lucky, and may the twelve continue to bless you. If you have found your niche and your like-minded group, that's great.

Realistically however, as time goes on there will be less and less people that need the initial content. New players should get the same opportunity to play through content with an actual appropriate level party, instead of quickly being ran through by a high level player that took pity on them.

We haven't even had a formal announcement telling us what the full functionality of the "FFXIV Dungeon Finder" would be. It may be that a lot of people's complaints will have already been addressed and are actually a non-issue. I'm not sure why anyone should hate the function before they have any information on it. Even if its not perfect at first, it can be tweaked to be better. We shouldn't assume we know anything, even if we understand how a whole other MMO implemented it.

Who knows..
* Maybe they'll let us add people from other servers to our friendlist so that we can play them again, or even invite them specifically once in the queue.
* Maybe they will let us "blacklist" nasty players so they don't auto-join our teams? Maybe would be a small deterrent. (However we should be realistic, if someone decides its ok to be a jerk just because they don't know the people, then they are a jerk to begin with. You'll still deal with occasional jerks in any pick-up party. Its unavoidable.)

Final Fantasy has always been about the adventure of meeting new people and grouping up to fight a common foe.. doing your part as the role you can play in that endeavor. So what if some of the people we meet aren't natively from our server?

Why is it considered required dues to sit in town, or at the dungeon's mouth shouting for hours and loitering about hoping that someone who would agree to join your cause might happen to walk by and hear you. Yay you have a duo, now rinse/lather/repeat for the remaining members?

Personally I'd rather spend the time actually playing than trying to put together a party that doesn't happen because either no one else is up for it right now, or wants to do that content because they've already done it. I guess I'm a little different, having the opportunity to do the content quicker isn't going to make me not help a LS member or even the random Joe that is out shouting for help. It doesn't have to ruin the community, our attitude totally decides that ourselves.

[Carpe]

How are you going to keep friendships in game when the people you get grouped with are cross servers. Correct me if i am wrong but they did say it would be cross server no? And let me ask you have you done dungeon finder in WoW recently? People rarely talk in them let alone everyone is from a different server. Most of my parties i have been in FFXIV have been in the open world. I don't even recall joining a party formed with in city walls.

I kind of agree. Dungeon Finder is somewhat responsible (but not fully) for basically sucking the life out of WOW parties. Sure, it's incredibly convenient, but most parties have little to no communication going on, it has this whole "autistic" vibe to it. You can type something in chat and no one will respond. Not all parties are like that, but a lot are, it basically makes you feel like you're just going through the motions: Log in, Queue up dungeon, Max out valor points, meet for raids, log out. The sense of adventure is completely lost. If they can keep the sense of fun, adventure, exploration in the game while adding the convenience of a dungeon finder system then I'm all for it, but if I'm sitting in town waiting for my queue to pop and just going through the motions then I just wouldn't bother playing anymore.