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    Robin Malvin
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    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    To be fair, many of our job abilities are unique to us (whether we started their use or rediscovered them); Blood of the Dragon and its abilities are entirely new, for example (actually, I think Battle Litany is as well)
    Except Battle Litany, Blood of the Dragon and its related skills seem to come from the soul crystal (dragon within stirs, resonating with the soul crystal), and Nidhogg!Estinien too can use Geirskogul so they're not unique to just us but common among dragoons.

    I'd been believing that us as WoL simply copy-paste skills from previous owners. Glad you remind me I was wrong
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    Player PArcher's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobinMalvin View Post
    Except Battle Litany, Blood of the Dragon and its related skills seem to come from the soul crystal (dragon within stirs, resonating with the soul crystal), and Nidhogg!Estinien too can use Geirskogul so they're not unique to just us but common among dragoons.

    I'd been believing that us as WoL simply copy-paste skills from previous owners. Glad you remind me I was wrong
    Hmm...not really. BoTD (and such) are related to the relationship between you and Middy, not the soul crystal; it's not Estinien who uses Geirskogul, it's Nidhogg.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    Scholar abilities are also our own for now, we're the only one able to channel tier IV black magic, and so on.
    You know, I've always wondered about the SCH job abilities, which it seems the Leveilleurs can cast as well. More specifically, Sacred Soil, and it looks like they can cast a far more powerful version of the spell (lasts for longer than 15 seconds and actually completely blocks attacks as opposed to letting 90% of them through). Although the only time I've ever seen any of them use it is to block Bahamut's attacks. Still, their Sacred Soil seems far more effective than ours.

    Man, even when we're special, the Leveilleurs are even more special than us!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysterysword View Post
    You know, I've always wondered about the SCH job abilities, which it seems the Leveilleurs can cast as well. More specifically, Sacred Soil, and it looks like they can cast a far more powerful version of the spell (lasts for longer than 15 seconds and actually completely blocks attacks as opposed to letting 90% of them through). Although the only time I've ever seen any of them use it is to block Bahamut's attacks. Still, their Sacred Soil seems far more effective than ours.

    Man, even when we're special, the Leveilleurs are even more special than us!
    Considering they studied in a very prestige school, it shouldn't be too surprising.

    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    To be fair, many of our job abilities are unique to us (whether we started their use or rediscovered them); Blood of the Dragon and its abilities are entirely new, for example (actually, I think Battle Litany is as well), and right now we're the only one who can use the Dreadwyrm Trance. Scholar abilities are also our own for now, we're the only one able to channel tier IV black magic, and so on.
    Not true. A few job abilities are used by NPCs and enemies as well. Presence of Mind is used by the Kobold NPC during the Black Mage LV45 quest, Fire IV is used by zombie Black Mages in Lost City of Amdapor (Hard) and Weeping City, and Holy is used by zombie White Mages in the lost city as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alberel View Post
    People seem to be forgetting that Tataru changes class multiple times during the MSQ, though in her case it's only crafting/gathering classes.

    I think the implication is that everyone can change their class/job at will whenever they like, but the WoL is able to learn at a massively enhanced rate due to their affinity with the various soul crystals they possess. Chalk this up to the Echo; it gives us the ability to learn from the memories stored in soul crystals really easily.

    For other characters learning a class/job is like a lifetime investment so very few ever branch out to more than one or two.

    TL;DR The Warrior of Light is special!

    Tataru has been Arcanist, Miner and Weaver(seamstress). As well as other jobs that are not fighting jobs receptionist, bookkeeper performer(juggler), singer
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    On the case of the Levellieurs, shield spells seem to be more common AND potent in Sharlayan, since we've seen Y'shtola use a different version of Collective Unconsious (as a CNJ, even!) that stops attacks completely, the Levellieurs version of "Sacred Soil" may not even be the SCH skill itself but a Sharlayan variant (as for HOW the Sharlayans knew about it...well, that's their whole shtick, gathering knowledge and then not telling anyone about it, at least until grandpa Louisoix rebelled) or a completely different spell that works similarly.
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    They also combined their twin grimoires to form some super grimoire that probably buffed it. Also it was a 'Twincast' spell so it uses the Aether of two. Also, it's a plot device, you can never compare to in-game effects.
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    Kytre Ashaer
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    If we were tapping into Nidhogg's Aether as DRG, we'd be powerless now since the Eyes are drained (also, its never mentioned that the WoL is actually drawing upon the Eye as a DRG at all; heck, Estinien only does it with the Eye in his possession, not from afar). The blue aetheric tails are very symbolic of Midgardsormr's power, especially now that we have the purple being of Nidhogg (heck, in theory the WoL DRG can use a lesser Akh Morn since that is tied to the Celestial Dragons. Would be interesting to see that happen). I mean, we also have Dragonsong Dive to point to some concrete evidence we're drawing upon our bond with Middy...
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    I mean, we also have Dragonsong Dive to point to some concrete evidence we're drawing upon our bond with Middy...
    Except you could do Dragonsong Dive as a level 50 DRG without ever meetin Middy. Whena re the blue aether trails shown to be associated with Middy also?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    Except you could do Dragonsong Dive as a level 50 DRG without ever meetin Middy. Whena re the blue aether trails shown to be associated with Middy also?
    TBF a Level 50 SMN can also use Teraflare despite not getting the abilities of Bahamut until 58
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