Thread: Difficulty format for Normal and Savage will remain in 4.0

Originally Posted by Ibi

Do you have a source for the 30% figure?

According to this post, "By the end of October, around half of active players have cleared Alex Normal," which indicates that at least "around half" of active players were at the level cap at that time.

Lucky Bancho's most recent unofficial census puts the number of active players at 507,722 and the number of players who've cleared the 3.0 story (which requires the player to have at least one level 60 job) at 354,091, which would be almost 70%.

Eoreazen census from '14 and '15 respectively, official data released by SE. These will show you the number of level capped players. It's simple math after that. Just compare t1-13 clear rates with the number of level capped characters during ARR. You will see that T1-13 had varying clear rates ranging from 12% for the earlier fights and 14-0.1% for the final fight (server dependent). Overall, raid participation was around 10%. If you look at the number of level capped jobs (none exceed 30%), you can see that roughly 30% of the players of this game actually reach end game.

So, if 30% of players reach the end game, and T1-13 had a 10% participation rate (meaning they cleared some of the coil fights), that means a third of endgame players participated in raids during ARR. The raiding community was not some fringe community that only comprised 1% of the endgame player base, it was a HUGE portion of the end game community.

Then Yoshida killed the raiding community with alex savage due to it's insane difficulty, junk story force fed through normal, and poor rewards. This is reflected in the 2015 census.

My sources:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...s-embarrassing

The same census source you cite, showing roughly 8% over all servers for a T13 clear. That 8% of T13 clears is easily 10% participation among all the turns (T1-13), there was a census that showed this (T1 having a +12% clear rate), but I am having trouble finding it.

The census data from SE:

2014: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ea-Census-2014
2015: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...e8ff1bcf34c5ae