Thread: Difficulty format for Normal and Savage will remain in 4.0

SE will not change anything without looking at numbers. It is following different formula now than it did back in 2.x because this new formula gave them the numbers they wanted to see. It was not fair for most players that coil was getting harder each turn and so most people did not clear it (the clear rate numbers were very low) and many people complained. Thats why SE is now releasing two different level of difficulty. To be fair with all type of players.

One thing SE forgot to look over is that now raiders get nothing from current savage but higher IL gear. They can fix this by releasing normal mode 1 or 2 patches after savage. Therefor savage players are the ones to see the story first and get the unique gear for 1 or 2 patches. Then after 2 patches everyone can give it a shot at normal mode (easier version) for the story and lower IL set but still considered good. If they wanted to have both versions out at the same time, they need to make savage gear more unique and different from normal one (not just IL wise).

Originally Posted by Remus

I'm pretty sure SE doesn't even know what to do with raiding anymore even though people have given suggestions.

I have found some interesting points within the latest Famitsu interviews, which may bring some light into the darkness, what they are doing.

A little list of "reasons" why the turned into the direction we currently have.

Y: I think it's because of the characteristic of japanese players, but there's this forced momentum where players feel like they definately have to clear the content no matter what and this idea seems to be stronger in japan.

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If everybody around you has cleared the content, you need to clear it. If there's a certain trend, you need to follow it. That sort of feeling is probably floating around.

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It might be because the Japanese MMO market hasn't had "high end raids" before and not being able to clear content even if you have the best gear is new for them.

In some sentences he is stating the current focus with the raid:

Y: Although i want to get rid of the atmosphere where you feel left out if you don't raid..but i think it's a japanese thing.

As it seems in the both interviews, the current focus is the japanese community only. Don't know what I shall think about it.

Sources:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme..._needs_to_ask/

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...rward_another/

Originally Posted by Whocareswhatmynameis

Looking at diadem, palace of the dead, and platoons... It already is. I guess we will see how many subs this format can retain in 4.0, my guess is not many. Blizzard already walked down this path and lost 1/2 their subs.... Now Yoshida wants to follow Blizz. GG

The thing i feared the most in 2.X is becoming a reality in 3.X

diadem and palace of the dead should be catered to the 1%? good idea, why not just take the game down right now and we can be wildstar 2.0.

honestly, the problem is neither so much difficulty, but the lack of content and the insanely boring way content is designed. it was okay for relaunching the game but now we're here 3 years later and it's the same stuff... just even less. and with lots of duds while trying to design content that fits into their rigorous base game design.

besides, I think pushing normal mode into a later patch would help the raid scene a bit out too, but it wouldn't fix any of the base problems. plus, SE has already established normal mode into their boring ass grind to keep you busy paying subs. for them it's a double win. for us, not so much.

Originally Posted by KarstenS

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That annoys me a bit. That can't just design it around a japanese mentality when other regions play the game as well. If your creating a MMO with numerous cultures sometimes you need to take it into account when creating content.

Originally Posted by Remus

That annoys me a bit. That can't just design it around a japanese mentality when other regions play the game as well. If your creating a MMO with numerous cultures sometimes you need to take it into account when creating content.

Hasn't SE always built their games to Japanese players?

Originally Posted by Cakekizyy

Hasn't SE always built their games to Japanese players?

Single Player games its understandable but not in a MMO which gets constantly update every few months with a playerbase mixed with japanese players and western players. If they continue doing things purely for japanese only it can lead to change in numbers on the other side. Also FFXV has taken quite a bit of feedback from the western audience when creating the game.

Originally Posted by Remus

That annoys me a bit. That can't just design it around a japanese mentality when other regions play the game as well. If your creating a MMO with numerous cultures sometimes you need to take it into account when creating content.

Exactly. They will shoot themselves in the foot if they continue doing this. It is very close minded and silly. If he continues with this logic (to cater to one region, when multiples play it) then they will continue to have the main player base be just that...and in turn more and more people will quit. Makes me sad, I thought we left that mentality back in the 90s, but I guess not :/