Cleric Stance CD

[Rakith]

Hi everyone,
Have you ever wished that CS cooldown were the other way round ?
I mean, it can happen that you have to switch back urgently to healing the moment you activate CS, and the 5s CD can make me quite nervous...
I would rather have the CS cooldown between OFF and ON rather than ON and OFF.
Do you think this could be a legitimate request to Square Enix ;-) ?
Or is there a reason to make us sweat when we desperately need healing back ?

[Werhusky]

Think this been a request since stance dancing was discovered (SCoB?)... And the sticky stance gets patched every second patch sooooo.... ;-)

[Nekotee]

This work as a penalty for healer
Because you have to plan and choose carefully when to go on and out Cs

And because fate hate healer

Most of the time, when you go in cs a asshole dps take an aoe or the tank eat à critical cleave or something...

[Rakith]

This work as a penalty for healer
Because you have to plan and choose carefully when to go on and out Cs

And because fate hate healer

Most of the time, when you go in cs a asshole dps take an aoe or the tank eat à critical cleave or something...

Exactly !!!! I hate that, it is unfair, we want to help any way we can (heal and dps) and we get penalized...

[RopeDrink]

I hate that, it is unfair, we want to help any way we can (heal and dps) and we get penalized...

There would always need to be a balance. Let's assume Cleric had no ICD in either direction, that's a pretty significant boost to an already very versatile Healer. Is it backward compared to, say, Shadow Priests in WoW (that can cancel Shadow Form automatically by casting a heal)? Sure, though the intent is the same either way. It is there to make using your DPS form a weighted decision, not something you can instantly slip in/out of on a whim - and it should be this way, one direction or the other, when dealing with stat & playstyle altering effects as a heal-capable class.

[Rakith]

There would always need to be a balance. Let's assume Cleric had no ICD in either direction, that's a pretty significant boost to an already very versatile Healer. Is it backward compared to, say, Shadow Priests in WoW (that can cancel Shadow Form automatically by casting a heal)? Sure, though the intent is the same either way. It is there to make using your DPS form a weighted decision, not something you can instantly slip in/out of on a whim - and it should be this way, one direction or the other, when dealing with stat & playstyle altering effects as a heal-capable class.

I know... i just behave like a spoiled child. ;-)

[Parawill]

Exactly !!!! I hate that, it is unfair, we want to help any way we can (heal and dps) and we get penalized...

I respectfully disagree. I do not see how it is unfair for a healer to go into Cleric Stance at an inappropriate time. If a healer needs to heal, the answer is to not go into Cleric Stance. If the healer has nothing to do? Go ahead and DPS.

The other side of the coin is that knowing and understanding the fight provides a rough framework of when you can and cannot DPS. While this is highly dependent on your group as well (avoidable damage & tank cool downs), it honestly makes learning a fight's "rotation" a beneficial asset to have in all combat aspects of this game.

The only real gripe is when mashing the Cleric Stance button and it turns off and then back on, but the real solution to that is either through a hot-bar swapping macro (changes the place of where Cleric Stance is after turning it on or off) or simply not mashing the button. The queuing system in this game (especially for oGCDs) works well.

[gehrtalert]

I believe the short cooldown of Cleric Stance adds to the skill of being a White Mage. It can be touchy. It will stab you in the back occasionally. Especially when pre-casting Clerics, most of the time, the server reads the request fine but every once in a while, your request goes in one ear and out of the other and it usually only happens when it absolutely should not happen.

[Yona87]

Cool story

STOP.

It is fine as it is.
You should be penalized for making a wrong decision.
You have to think whether you should stance dance or not.

[technole]

Agreed, cool story.

Some tend to forget the second word, "stance". It's not an instant-off transition.

Even good tanks have to think about such when switching between tank and DPS stances, because there is a re-cast cooldown. While you "sweat" your opinion, am I going to get tank stance back up in-time to take this hard-hitting tank buster mechanic to the face? It's on me if I screw that up. So why can't you take responsibility too?