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    I know what an ISF cert is. I was however talking about resolution, not color.
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    Good, ISF is not about color it's about Picture so everything that produces it that includes pixels.
    the point of having a big screen is emergence, 3 screens that's a wide big screen again emergence.
    ( I realize that you would get more space in 533563 pixels X 25523424 Pixels) would it beat playing on a couch and being engulfed by the screen size, no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    Well the problem with that is they don't really make 1920x1200 anymore. Cheap 27" panels are 1920x1080, where the dot pitch is just too large for me. Good 27" panels use 2560x1440, and pretty much all 30" panels are 2560x1600, like mine.

    I understand what you mean, but I like having more area due to the higher resolution.
    I know, my heart sinks a little bit more by the lack of 1920x1200 panels every time I check out new monitors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheth View Post
    Good, ISF is not about color it's about Picture so everything that produces it that includes pixels.
    the point of having a big screen is emergence, 3 screens that's a wide big screen again emergence.
    ( I realize that you would get more space in 533563 pixels X 25523424 Pixels) would it beat playing on a couch and being engulfed by the screen size, no.
    Would it beat it for you? No. For some other people? Maybe. For me? Yes. For me, the size of the screen means very little if the image is the same as on a smaller screen just stretched out to the point I can see the pixels even more clearly. this is why I prefer the smallest possible screen for a given resolution. Which is why I like 1080 laptop screens over 22" Desktop displays at the same resolution. I don't like seeing pixels and sadly i see them all to easily the larger a screen goes without a resolution bump.

    Also, you can't calibrate the pixels on a display, but you can calibrate most everything else. ie Color, brightness, contrast, etc. So, again, I was talking about resolution only.

    EDIT: To add a comment about "being engulfed" I just can't see it. The larger a screen is, the farther back you have to sit to see it all. Maybe you like turning your head around to see things while missing others(if there's anything to miss of course), I do not. A 22" and 42" display set to fit in my FoV look the same to me, aside from other panel differences and such.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aenarion View Post
    I know, my heart sinks a little bit more by the lack of 1920x1200 panels every time I check out new monitors.
    That's kind of why I decided to just grab the 30" when I had the money, same aspect ratio as 1920x1200, 16:10
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    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post

    EDIT: To add a comment about "being engulfed" I just can't see it. The larger a screen is, the farther back you have to sit to see it all. Maybe you like turning your head around to see things while missing others(if there's anything to miss of course), I do not. A 22" and 42" display set to fit in my FoV look the same to me, aside from other panel differences and such.
    Am talking about emergence if you only need a 22" to have it good for you, am a full grown man that would be too tiny for me. I would really look like a fool viewing my content the way you described, I guess that would be you trying to check every pixel. There is a ratio between screen size and viewing distance for optimal experience (meaning you would see the whole screen and the intended resolution), I thought you knew about that based on one of your previous posts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheth View Post
    Am talking about emergence if you only need a 22" to have it good for you, am a full grown man that would be too tiny for me. I would really look like a fool viewing my content the way you described, I guess that would be you trying to check every pixel. There is a ratio between screen size and viewing distance for optimal experience (meaning you would see the whole screen and the intended resolution), I thought you knew about that based on one of your previous posts.
    Checking every pixel.... no. I just see them unless the display is beyond a certain point based on the screen size and dot pitch. I don't "need" any specific size. And what I meant was, you can only see so far to the sides without moving your eyes or turning your head. A 24" Monitor and 42" TV at the right distance will look the same. Put them too far and you see everything outside of the TV, too close and you have to turn your eyes or move your head to see it all. Like at a theater, sitting in the front you have to turn your head to see some things clearly. Sit in the back and you can usually see the whole screen and then some. But sit in the right spot and you see the whole screen without having to turn your head or move your eyes and you don't see much to the sides beyond the image.

    Also, you can drop the condescending attitude. I don't care what certs either of us have, nor our ages. A cert is something showing you took a course or passed a test, nothing more. YOU show you know the info or not, and YOU show whether you can learn beyond that or not. I may not agree with your view on the subject, but I do understand why you like it the way you watch it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    Checking every pixel.... no. I just see them unless the display is beyond a certain point based on the screen size and dot pitch. I don't "need" any specific size. And what I meant was, you can only see so far to the sides without moving your eyes or turning your head. A 24" Monitor and 42" TV at the right distance will look the same. Put them too far and you see everything outside of the TV, too close and you have to turn your eyes or move your head to see it all. Like at a theater, sitting in the front you have to turn your head to see some things clearly. Sit in the back and you can usually see the whole screen and then some. But sit in the right spot and you see the whole screen without having to turn your head or move your eyes and you don't see much to the sides beyond the image.

    Also, you can drop the condescending attitude. I don't care what certs either of us have, nor our ages. A cert is something showing you took a course or passed a test, nothing more. YOU show you know the info or not, and YOU show whether you can learn beyond that or not. I may not agree with your view on the subject, but I do understand why you like it the way you watch it.
    YOU show that you don't understand what am saying, and this is getting old have a good night.

    P.S. Something you might want to think about before you go to sleep tonight, why would someone with 120" screen sit at the same distance they would sit from a 30" monitor?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheth View Post
    YOU show that you don't understand what am saying, and this is getting old have a good night.

    P.S. Something you might want to think about before you go to sleep tonight, why would someone with 120" screen sit at the same distance they would sit from a 30" monitor?
    I understand it fine, thanks. But whipping out a cert or saying that you're a "grown man" is just condescending. I've learned many things from this thread already. And i've also learned over many years what my own eyes can and can't see.

    And i've already said they do not. Unless they like moving their heads and/or eyes to see everything. Looking straight ahead, 2 screens of different sizes, placed at the right distance will look pretty much the same.

    You, as supposedly having a cert for this type of thing, should know this. It's basic stuff, the farther something is from you, the smaller it looks. And two items that are the same aside from physical size, placed at appropriate distances look the same due that same basic concept. ie a 42" @ 10 feet looks smaller than the same at 6 feet.
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    I sit 2-2.5' from my 28" monitors, I'd obviously sit further from a projector. However I would not even want a single 47" screen, let alone 120", because I want to be surrounded. It's not just about size, and for me there's such a thing as to big.

    The other downfall of a projector is space. Sure, I could use a projector, set up 3 of them, 3 angled backdrops, but it would take up an unbelievably large amount of space. I have a single 6'x8' L shaped desk that I wheel into the corner of with my monitors surrounding me. That's my immersive experience. It's RIGHT THERE. And I have noticed stuff moving to my left and right, I can spot people or monsters better, so it is giving an advantage.
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