Elitist Attitudes in Expert Roulette

[WeekendSoja]

You are looking at it the wrong way.

Without the parser everyone who doesn't do mechanics gets kicked.

With the parser Luna is willing to ignore this if the players are doing good enough dps.

So Luna is actually just pretending to be the A-hole and the parser is saving people from kicks instead of causing them.

I just want to thank this person for excellent reading comprehension! I post stuff like Luna's comment often and people don't even regard the posts context or content for that matter, just read it with their own shallow understanding and hit the "attack" button lol.

Honestly, seeing this post almost made me want to cry a little, because this person proves that a really small amount of FF14's forum users aren't complete illiterates.

[Jonnycbad]

Oh, so I can't expect high level play style in EXPERT roulette? Oh EXCUSE me, I'm sorry, I thought this was Expert Roulette. Why don't we pull 2 mobs at a time, and hold LB the entire run until the last 5% of the last boss.

[Leigaon]

I recently ran into a Duty in Sohr Khai with a tank that wanted to get it over with....I wasn't getting much help trying to get moogles out of their circles...After that, the tank stopped tanking and said that they were done and gave up just because of a minor mechanic.

All of these show that the tank has been playing for way too long today and needs a break. Whenever this boss comes up, the party has had no problem taking a few ticks and slap a moogle. Heck after all those quests I'll take any chance to pimp slap a moogle for now. Still, I can't blame just the tank we're all guilty of playing a bit too long..upset over small things. Miss a F.A.T.E. then yell at a squirrel.

You got a Tank who wanted to do the bare minimum just to get out. I normally heal, takes 0 effort for me to turn around and throw an Aero to hit a moogle real quick, one less thing a DPS has to do and can get back to slapping the boss. I am sorry you ran into this situation, from what it sounds it isn't your fault and I don't think you'll experience this a majority of the time. You will get some nasty people out there though, just have to deal with it. Let them express their hatred through the internet because they can't anywhere else.

there's no reason to kick someone unless you're in danger not clearing the content.

It's true if you should be concerned only if you believe the content is in danger of not being finished due to the actions of others. That's what you get though for certain situations. If you are ignoring helping with the group mob pulls, ignoring mechanics that could make / break the run. It's not cut and dry, and there are exceptions to every rule. Say, if you parse and see they aren't doing the DPS they should. In that persons mind, low DPS makes a fight go on longer that could result in the fight going sour for some reason..lets say lag with a tank buster and a few AoE's. Or if you are ignoring helping with getting the moogles out of the circles, they spawn. Either scenario, and all the others that I didn't mention, there's the possibility you pizza when you should have French fried and you're gunna have a bad time.

[WeekendSoja]

I never expect high level of play in expert roulette since it is only utilizing the easiest of dungeons to give players a bonus in tomes.

What I do disapprove of is stuff that was briefly touched on like neglecting mechanics, very toxic attitude, or ilvl buffing. You hit any of these than you pretty much fall in the category of "differing play styles" which are an acceptable reason to kick a player for harassment.

[Maddonious]

Moral of the story is the tank should have helped. Someone mentioned it here before but its not the dps job to remove the moogles, its the tanks/healers. If they are lazy and dont want to do it then they need to be reminded they can do something besides just tanking and healing. My raid tier dps is better used burning the boss then dealing with a simple push mechanic.

[Taika]

Moral of the story is the tank should have helped. Someone mentioned it here before but its not the dps job to remove the moogles, its the tanks/healers. If they are lazy and dont want to do it then they need to be reminded they can do something besides just tanking and healing. My raid tier dps is better used burning the boss then dealing with a simple push mechanic.

Exactly, and I would even say it should have been the healer to push them alone. There's no reason for DDs to stop DPS for this simple mechanic.

[Keramory]

Well I think many people forget that the true level of our characters doesn't stop at 60. Its not even much of a factor.
Our REAL levels, truly, are our ilvls. There are various instances where gear makes a somewhat big difference in 50 dungeons, between 50-60 dungeons, and yes even in 60 dungeons. Granted there is some room for skill to make that factor, but also a fair portion is the gear itself. I don't expect a fresh 60 with (what is it 180?) gear that just hit the requirement to preform the same feats as someone in 240 gear.

Granted there are examples that don't have to do with what I just mentioned...but please if you as a player haven't already, before getting upset at say, a tank not being able to pull an insane number of monsters...check the tanks gear...THEN check the healers gear. Heck even check the DPS gear because thats a fair factor as well.

[HyperiusUltima]

Granted there are examples that don't have to do with what I just mentioned...but please if you as a player haven't already, before getting upset at say, a tank not being able to pull an insane number of monsters...check the tanks gear...THEN check the healers gear. Heck even check the DPS gear because thats a fair factor as well.

This statement has nothing to do with the topic at hand. I was only talking about the tank's failure to help due to deciding to give up just because Mogsun was revived twice.

[Xenos88]

I always like to tank but drama queens comes in all roles. I had a healer who had issues healing me and when I died, he had the galls to curse me out cause we wiped once on the regular enemies in Sohr Kai. I have to say I hate arguing with people who think that hiccups cant happen on a routine dungeon. it happens don't bitch about it, just keep going and that's it.

[Keramory]

This statement has nothing to do with the topic at hand. I was only talking about the tank's failure to help due to deciding to give up just because Mogsun was revived twice.

Forgive me, I assumed this was a constructive thread pointing out the problem with elitism in expert duty finder. Not H.Ultima's journal entry of how she had a bad day.
I'm starting to wonder if your op truly transpired the way you mentioned now.