What do you think about item pop NM's?

[Jinko]

I think POP items are the best way to implement HNMs. I think Instanced dungeons are the worst way to implement end game content.

Explain why please.

I.e pros and cons.

[Nero]

Explain why please.

I.e pros and cons.

First of all, there wont be a Time Limit.

Pro's:

- You can farm certain NM's for the multiple Pop-items, you would need, whenever you want without Time-pressure.
- You could/have to explore different Zones
- You could/have to farm with multiple Parties at multiple NM' Spams against/along with other Linkshells. ( Challenging )
- After obtaining the needed Pop-Item you can go and Pop the HNM/First Tier NM. People can watch. ( Fun/Entertaining/Teaching)
- A lot of posibilites to add higher Tier Pop-NM's over the existing ones. I.e. ZNM's.

That are some of my personal Pro's and there are a couple more tho.

The only Con coming into my head is the challenging aspect, where you maybe have to fight with other Shells for a certain NM, which drops one of the Pop-items. Some would maybe not like the challenge with other Linkshells.

[Wynn]

First of all, there wont be a Time Limit.

Pro's:

- You can farm certain NM's for the multiple Pop-items, you would need, whenever you want without Time-pressure.
- You could/have to explore different Zones
- You could/have to farm with multiple Parties at multiple NM' Spams against/along with other Linkshells. ( Challenging )
- After obtaining the needed Pop-Item you can go and Pop the HNM/First Tier NM. People can watch. ( Fun/Entertaining/Teaching)
- A lot of posibilites to add higher Tier Pop-NM's over the existing ones. I.e. ZNM's.

That are some of my personal Pro's and there are a couple more tho.

The only Con coming into my head is the challenging aspect, where you maybe have to fight with other Shells for a certain NM, which drops one of the Pop-items. Some would maybe not like the challenge with other Linkshells.

Instances don't have to have a time limit. There are plenty of examples of that in this game, let alone other games.
You can and have to explore instance zones too.
Most people don't like to fight over content.
Stroking your ego is not a good enough reason to add something.
Higher tier NMs can be added regardless of instance or open world. The method of distribution is irrelevant.

[Nero]

Instances don't have to have a time limit. There are plenty of examples of that in this game, let alone other games.

Huh? Name me 1 Instance in this Game which dont have a Time Limit and includes a Higher Tier NM and the posibility of gaining Endgame-Gear.

Most people don't like to fight over content.

Yep, that is what i meant by the Con which came into my head.

Stroking your ego is not a good enough reason to add something.
Higher tier NMs can be added regardless of instance or open world. The method of distribution is irrelevant.

Actually i LIKE to watch other Linkshells killing big Stuff. I always like it in FFXI. Even if we didnt get the claim i stayed to watch the fight and sometimes a lot of Fun happend when the other Group wiped. Its entertaining to a certain kind of group. I cant watch Stuff in Instances unless they are streaming it somewhere.

[elreed]

First of all, there wont be a Time Limit.

Pro's:

- You can farm certain NM's for the multiple Pop-items, you would need, whenever you want without Time-pressure.
- You could/have to explore different Zones
- You could/have to farm with multiple Parties at multiple NM' Spams against/along with other Linkshells. ( Challenging )
- After obtaining the needed Pop-Item you can go and Pop the HNM/First Tier NM. People can watch. ( Fun/Entertaining/Teaching)
- A lot of posibilites to add higher Tier Pop-NM's over the existing ones. I.e. ZNM's.

That are some of my personal Pro's and there are a couple more tho.

The only Con coming into my head is the challenging aspect, where you maybe have to fight with other Shells for a certain NM, which drops one of the Pop-items. Some would maybe not like the challenge with other Linkshells.

Well, maybe you dont need fight over NM's, maybe something like the inferno lamp, while you clear a hard quest involving a difficult NM kill you can get your pop item as reward, so i dont see much of a problem there if they implemment a thing like that.

[Xellos2099]

If everything is instanced... what is the different between mmo and a free to play guild war... where everything is instanced. I can name at least 1 reason why open world is good. Bumping into friends or enemy in such areas..... like how "real" adventurers does?

Come on, there has to be one or two time where you were in FFXI where you bump into old friends in highly dangerous area and decide to team up.... NOW this give a sense of community... not the instance..... looking thing.