Tanking frustration when others pull

[Lyth]

Buffs won't do all that much if you've got weakness because of your impatience.

Don't get weakness, then.

[Paikis]

DPS pulling mobs is like tanks spinning mobs. It's not the end of the world, you'll still kill the mob, but it slows things down and is generally annoying.

[Malicewolf]

DPS pulling mobs is like tanks spinning mobs. It's not the end of the world, you'll still kill the mob, but it slows things down and is generally annoying.

^ this. so this. Simply put, it's just annoying, but doesn't necessarily stop things in their tracks if the other party decides to just suck it up and do what they're "supposed to".

But a DPS has NO clue why a tank may not have pulled yet. It could be because they had to do something really quick in real life and weren't ready. Perhaps they have no TP (and guess what a tank can't do if they have no TP?), maybe even out of MP. Yes, we generate hate much easier. Doesn't mean DPS can pull for whatever reason and then blame the tank for a "hissy fit". If I spin the mobs around and you get hit, can I blame you for a "hissy fit" if you didn't circle behind the enemy while I'm moving him?

[Ilan]

DPS pulling mobs is like tanks spinning mobs. It's not the end of the world, you'll still kill the mob, but it slows things down and is generally annoying.

It slows you down if your dpses keep their dmg buffs and stacks so that they can burn the mobs faster then without? Sorry but there is nothing annoying with it as long as they stay where they are or if they come to you with the mob.
Why do tanks always think they are the center of the world? I play tank myself and i'm doing savage raids and its not rare that a dps pulls because of his buffs/stacks. I don't care, i'll get my mob without problems and it dies faster.

You are out of TP? A few ticks are enough to start tanking. No MP? Could become a Problem but the only two classes who need TP for tanking are PLD and DRK and they can get MP back pretty quick and if you are completly out of MP you should change something in your rotation.

[Jukebox12]

If people are pulling in order to keep their buffs active, such as Blood of the Dragon or Greased Lightning, then I actually much prefer if they continue to pull, and I'll start to make an active effort to lessen the distance between one group and another if possible.
These are the DPS I want in my groups.

100% agree with you. More dmg means less time healing or get hit on

[Deceptistar]

When im on my pld, I figure if a DPS pulls/attks another mob, and gets aggro, then they are able to tank it to some degree.
Of course i do take it off them but if i see a pattern, im not in a rush to get it off them (Assuming their target is not just a quick switch from a dying mob to the next)
sorry im evil

[gehrtalert]

I've tanked paladin to 60, dark knight to 45, and I'm doing Warrior now. I've leveled dpses and healers and it's never a huge problem if someone besides the tanks pulls unless...

1) People don't have the MP/TP to start another pack.
2) The tank isn't geared up enough to rip hate from an overgeared party member.

And that's about it. I don't personally care if someone else pulls, hell I do it alot myself, but some people will throw a fit when it happens.

If someone accidentally pulls one or two mobs while we're dealing with a trash pack then oh freaking well. Deal with it and move on. If someone who can't handle it is purposely pulling entire trash packs then just say something to them. Maybe they're doing something that they don't know they are doing. If that's not the case and they're doing it for shits and giggles, then giggle as they die.

[SessionZero]

I think it largely stems from the notion that the tank is the de facto "leader" of the group and a DPS who pulls an extra pack of mobs is somehow circumventing the leader's "authority," nebulous as it may be. A lot of A type personalities gravitate to tanks (literally every raid team I've ever been in, the raid leader is a tank) and having a DPS insinuate that the ideal pace is not being met ruffles feathers.

Admittedly I used to be like this but now I don't care. My tank classes are geared enough that pulling hate back is a breeze, and I'd rather my DPS keep their buffs and burn mobs faster than cowtow to some implied authority of the almighty tank.

[Jonnycbad]

Rememeber in ffxi when bards would pull and if they didn't everyone would riot because then the tank would have to voke pull?

[Nivison]

Personally what i do when someone pulls is say in chat "hey you want to tank, alright I'll dps for you" and then watch them die. Then after that i grab aggro, or if it switches to another person. Makes it so the dont do that anymore