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    Synestra's Avatar
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    Nel Synestra
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    Moogle
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by SantoLuciano View Post
    That's because Warrior can practically be another DPS if used properly. Though I like the Utility the PLD can bring to a match with stuns and being able to cover your teammates. As for Dark Knight.... ehhh haven't seen a good one yet haha.
    Aye i would like to use PLD more but it requires good team to be efficient, WAR can be lonewolf and do just fine due good survivability/DMG and self-heals. DRK is umm... i dunno it lacks all juicy skills like proper support(Carnal is only decent support they have atm)and specially knockbacks that both WAR and PLD has, only neat thing i can think of is Tar Pit coupled with dual Cometors when there is pile of enemy players, oh and Plunge really needs atleast 2sec stun as its way too easy to render it uselees atm just by jumping(well you can do same for spineshatter so dunno if that stun even helps there).

    Would love to use DRK in PvP but atm i simply cant justify its usage when i already have both WAR and PLD, its jack of all trades master of none while other two tanks feels more complete in their role.
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    Last edited by Synestra; 08-31-2016 at 01:06 AM.

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    FunkYeahDragons's Avatar
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    Cafe Miel
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    Faerie
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    We'll probably do this in my FC, as several people enjoy PVP but can't commit to queue times. Still, given what I've seen so far in 2016 I'm prepared for the worst.
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    Advent Shadowsoul
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    Zalera
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by FunkYeahDragons View Post
    We'll probably do this in my FC, as several people enjoy PVP but can't commit to queue times. Still, given what I've seen so far in 2016 I'm prepared for the worst.
    Speaking of FC's - DEV REQUEST: Please allow sparring mats, or a purchasable practice room that allows dueling in fc house
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    fallenalexiel's Avatar
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    Anela Tumulus
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    Ultros
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Having cleric stance for duels though would be pretty overpowered though. I remember those cleric days...
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    Synestra's Avatar
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    Nel Synestra
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    Moogle
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by fallenalexiel View Post
    Having cleric stance for duels though would be pretty overpowered though. I remember those cleric days...
    Imo it was never OP as they either chose to do damage or heal, couldnt really do both at the same time atleast not properly. I never understood why they took CS away in the firstplace instead adjusting its effect, theres nothing wrong if a good healer becomes "OP" when he uses all tools avaible. Oh and almost if not all jobs has burst now and that wasnt a case back in lvl50 era and it was this that made healers like SCH feel like immortal/OP.
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    Maxwell's Avatar
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    Indra Spharai
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 80
    How long would a SCH vs SCH duel be ? :P
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    Thekk Everdream
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    Brynhildr
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    Scholar Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Maxwell View Post
    How long would a SCH vs SCH duel be ? :P
    Without Cleric Stance, you could probably just go afk with Eos on Sic, come back an hour later and still be alive.
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    Alex Greaver
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    Brynhildr
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    Machinist Lv 70
    Dueling? With the PvP rules? Can you say "horrendously and inescapably unbalanced"? Only fast, high burst DPS would see victory during all that. Tanks have the survivability but can't bring the damage and, if cleric stance is still off bounds, healers would also be in a bad position for obvious reasons.

    Here is the deal, the moves we all use are tuned for PvE and all those internal mechanics and job quirks are a hindrance in PvP. It says A LOT when the job itself makes you easy prey during PvP.

    Here is a suggestion from me: The moves we always use? Get rid of them for PvP stuff. Make a new set of moves with animations and even names from the regular ones but with effects wholly oriented for the PvP scene. Ignore the job trinity, ignore a jobs "standing" in a party and make each job be able to stand up to other jobs.
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    Last edited by Erudito; 09-06-2016 at 10:55 AM.

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    TiaHariberux3's Avatar
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    Empty Inside
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    Lich
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Erudito View Post
    Dueling? With the PvP rules? Can you say "horrendously and inescapably unbalanced"? Only fast, high burst DPS would see victory during all that. Tanks have the survivability but can't bring the damage and, if cleric stance is still off bounds, healers would also be in a bad position for obvious reasons.

    Here is the deal, the moves we all use are tuned for PvE and all those internal mechanics and job quirks are a hindrance in PvP. It says A LOT when the job itself makes you easy prey during PvP.

    Here is a suggestion from me: The moves we always use? Get rid of them for PvP stuff. Make a new set of moves with animations and even names from the regular ones but with effects wholly oriented for the PvP scene. Ignore the job trinity, ignore a jobs "standing" in a party and make each job be able to stand up to other jobs.
    Warrior can bring damage and PLD can nullify your burst and slowly rek u lol. Its just for fun.
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    Geistherz Gungnir
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    I wonder if the Duel-Area is big enough...
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    Ich finde es eh schon krank, dass du Paules Zitat ungefragt verwendest und ich weiß, dass du nie eine Erlaubnis dafür bekommen hast!

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