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    sometimes it seems to me in this dragoon /wyvern discussion... that all lancers want to see them doing XXXXDMG on their own... instead of splitted up with two charas.

    well i hate the fact that lancer became so popular since the ifrit videos on youtube. it seems to me they picked the class because its THE damage dealing melee class at the moment.. and thats why they want no wyvern pet

    <------> pe*** size


    well i will accept both of types now... im looking forward to what SE is doing about the drg job. lets see if its stylish enough without the wyvern... well lets see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    sometimes it seems to me in this dragoon /wyvern discussion... that all lancers want to see them doing XXXXDMG on their own... instead of splitted up with two charas.

    well i hate the fact that lancer became so popular since the ifrit videos on youtube. it seems to me they picked the class because its THE damage dealing melee class at the moment.. and thats why they want no wyvern pet

    <------> pe*** size


    well i will accept both of types now... im looking forward to what SE is doing about the drg job. lets see if its stylish enough without the wyvern... well lets see.
    you are wrong been Lancer since beta, in fact this debate has been going on long before the Ifrit fight and even then the majority did not want a wyvern pet
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mairuzu View Post
    Does Colonel Sanders have a pet chicken?

    Does Blade have a pet vampire?
    no blade is a vampire himself ;D does a hunter in WoW have a pet`? does a beastmaster have a pet? does the warlock have a pet? blablabla*

    does it make the hunter or warlock gimped? hell no. on the opposite

    Quote Originally Posted by Krausus View Post
    you are wrong been Lancer since beta, in fact this debate has been going on long before the Ifrit fight and even then the majority did not want a wyvern pet
    because they are afraid that it will be the same like in FF11.. (although i think he was a good dd in FF11). MOST of the people didnt took the wyvern dmg and breath attacks into account (which is stupid imho). it was like a warrior with polearm + wyvern dmg + tactically things like healing breath etc

    i would personally prefer both types. because THEN i could kick your asses up in pvp with my "gimpy" wyvern. TWO are better then ONE i would make a hunt on all you non-wyvern drg's ^^

    PAH



    well im looking forward to that what SE will offer to us DRG players... but i dont think that drg will be more "exciting" than lancer is. it will be almost the same. but well, lets see if they have some "stylish" skills for us.

    For me coming from DarkAgeOfCamelot (16 classes per realm - where many are really innovative and new) simple classes are not that exciting to me. a polearm wielding class is nothing special to me. its like "hm ok, saw that before. a polearm footsoldier"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    no blade is a vampire himself ;D does a hunter in WoW have a pet`? does a beastmaster have a pet? does the warlock have a pet? blablabla*

    does it make the hunter or warlock gimped? hell no. on the opposite



    because they are afraid that it will be the same like in FF11.. (although i think he was a good dd in FF11). MOST of the people didnt took the wyvern dmg and breath attacks into account (which is stupid imho). it was like a warrior with polearm + wyvern dmg + tactically things like healing breath etc

    i would personally prefer both types. because THEN i could kick your asses up in pvp with my "gimpy" wyvern. TWO are better then ONE i would make a hunt on all you non-wyvern drg's ^^

    PAH



    well im looking forward to that what SE will offer to us DRG players... but i dont think that drg will be more "exciting" than lancer is. it will be almost the same. but well, lets see if they have some "stylish" skills for us.

    For me coming from DarkAgeOfCamelot (16 classes per realm - where many are really innovative and new) simple classes are not that exciting to me. a polearm wielding class is nothing special to me. its like "hm ok, saw that before. a polearm footsoldier"
    nah it will go like this

    1. kill Wyvern

    2. kill gimped Dragoon

    3. /s loldrg!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    no blade is a vampire himself ;D does a hunter in WoW have a pet`? does a beastmaster have a pet? does the warlock have a pet? blablabla*

    does it make the hunter or warlock gimped? hell no. on the opposite
    Yeah blade is a vampire himself just like freya had dragon breath abilities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reliquia View Post
    If your drg could have a wyvern and still be as successful as lancer is now, deliver top notch DPS and be popular at xp parties and end-game content, would you then accept the idea of dragoon?
    I would like this post, if that would not start trend 5x Dragoon in the party.
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    You could also make the argument that people only want the wyvern just for vanity. Personally i don't care either way, I have stuck by dragoon since the beginning I don't plan on changing that now.
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    Problem is SE always been terrible at balancing jobs. Having a wyvern as a part of the class is asking for drg to be gimp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cichy View Post
    Problem is SE always been terrible at balancing jobs. Having a wyvern as a part of the class is asking for drg to be gimp.
    and there we are again player who chosed to be lancer because of ifrit videos and being one of the better dmg dealer now are afraid to get "gimped"... drg so or so would go into the dmg dealer role... wether with or without pet.. the dmg will be just a little splitted. besides that you would maybe be able to perform WS on your own.

    YOU THINK it will be like.. but doesnt SE goes different ways now? jumping... mounts besides chocobos etc.?

    and i dont think a drg was gimped in FFXI i did almost the same dmg than a dark, well just at least. I'd say a little bit more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    and there we are again player who chosed to be lancer because of ifrit videos and being one of the better dmg dealer now are afraid to get "gimped"... drg so or so would go into the dmg dealer role... wether with or without pet.. the dmg will be just a little splitted. besides that you would maybe be able to perform WS on your own.

    YOU THINK it will be like.. but doesnt SE goes different ways now? jumping... mounts besides chocobos etc.?

    and i dont think a drg was gimped in FFXI i did almost the same dmg than a dark, well just at least. I'd say a little bit more.
    Oh this dude is going to call me out like this. Here's a newsflash buddy.
    I started XI 2 weeks after NA release, drg been my 1st job to 75. I played when Penta Thrust gave you TP for each hit connected. However, truth of the matter is if you think drg wasn't gimped you're completely delusional.
    DRG had crappy abilites, stats, gear choices, modifiers, etc, take your pick! It wasn't until bird parties post TOAU and numbers of adjustments that drgs became desirable and only for bird parties at that.
    HNM/endgame linkshells avoided drgs like a plague. Sure there were some drgs that were in there but most of them had their gear because of a "useful" job they had leveled for LS purposes.
    I dont want to play Lancer, I want to play DRG just like I wanted in XI but ended up playing other jobs because of how gimp DRG there was.
    Seems to me you have no idea what you're talking about there buddy.
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