At What Point Does It Become Justified?

[KfLeX]

I can't wait for duels, but my fc members are scared to challenge me lol

[UnstablePersonality]

Hitting the ice must be the most boring thing you can do in PvP. That's not what I'm 20 minutes in a q for, come on. We have that in pve already, and a lot quicker.

This is why I liked Seal Rock, but that's dead now.

[Evilsyndicatemember]

Seal Rock is literally the best pvp FL mode. Hence the reason it had 72s for so long. Literally always had 72s until feast started, but still would get some until Shitter started and now no one queues. :/

[Evilsyndicatemember]

I think for people who have pvped longer, winning doesn't Matter as much as killing or getting revenge does. I always see you out on the field and I already know what you're going for. Haha.

[Nidelia]

I don't think it's wrong. If a premade team wants to ignore the ices and just farm killing people, it's their business.

I don't want to play against that kind of premade team, but it's their right. So I just stop doing FL during weekends.

It'll be good though, if pre-made teams will be matched up against each other instead of getting into the same match with random team from other GCs.

The problem with that, is that it's breaking completly the game.
Either you are:
A) In the same party of a premade of 5-6, you can't win because they aren't playing the objective.
B) In the party which are farmed, you re just chain killed, you can't play.
C) In the ignored party, you just tag PvE objective.
It results that, mostly, you can't enjoy the game in these condtions at all. Only the people in the premade are enjoying it, spitting on others players in the process. And I find that 5 people enjoying it when 19 are just wasting their time is quite unacceptable...
Premade was always something completly broken, but it took a complet new sens in shatter kill farming.

[ChocoFeru]

- Fluid Aura
- Enemy dies from falling
- *Uses fireworks*

That made me be the focus of the entire enemy alliance in some games...

[Eul]

Hitting the ice must be the most boring thing you can do in PvP. That's not what I'm 20 minutes in a q for, come on. We have that in pve already, and a lot quicker.

This so much. I really prefer Seal Rock than this ice stuff omg.

[Evangela]

The problem with that, is that it's breaking completly the game.
Either you are:
A) In the same party of a premade of 5-6, you can't win because they aren't playing the objective.
B) In the party which are farmed, you re just chain killed, you can't play.
C) In the ignored party, you just tag PvE objective.
It results that, mostly, you can't enjoy the game in these condtions at all. Only the people in the premade are enjoying it, spitting on others players in the process. And I find that 5 people enjoying it when 19 are just wasting their time is quite unacceptable...
Premade was always something completly broken, but it took a complet new sens in shatter kill farming.

Yeah, I agree and I hope SE do something about it. Not sure what can be done though.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

As it stands, premades - with no disrespect to their individual skills as players, let alone coordinated teamwork - really don't mean much to me. Not saying avoid/don't make/don't enjoy them, but I have every issue with people being so wary/fearful/sick of them that they just stop queueing at give days/times. Or worse, giving up early/mid match. Why should one single group get to enjoy PvP and no one else (which, consider that once people stop queueing in avoidance, matches don't happen). Call me stubborn but hell if I roll over and let that happen.

[Zojha]

Why should one single group get to enjoy PvP and no one else[...]

With full premades, that's an issue either way, as they will get priority in the queue and block out solos from their GC. Moreover, chances are if people don't queue with premades around, it's because they don't get to enjoy PvP at those times and naturally will be proactive about it when they notice a pattern.

As the OP says, every action has its consequence. If you demoralize people, you'll have less people to play with and thus longer queues, something that becomes painfully obvious in a community as small as this.