Patch 3.4 - Soul Surrender

[myahele]

The Wandering Minstral also says something that I think foreshadows events from 3.4, maybe even beyond?


I am thinking it might have to do with the Aetherial Sea. So probably have to do with Hydaelyn/Zodiark and maybe even "The Source"

[Nalien]

Oh right, we're finally getting back to the Scholasticate quests as well, glad those haven't been forgotten about but... Guess the Doman Adventurers' Guild has been...

[MPNZ]

OK, so we need to do Binding coil for the different text. Yay...

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Yeah, but there's no reason they can't mix it up. Besides, we know Elidibus, Darklander, Urianger, and Alisae have all been seen in a post-patch stinger there, and with all that eldritch and forbidden lore, it feels like a vastly underutilized asset since all we did was jump in and get the designs for a magitek battering ram.

It just feels like it'll be MSQ relevant, y'know?

Considering that 3.4 is going to tease events leading towards 4.0, Xenaphotl (or however that's spelled) is the most logical choice to be a MSQ dungeon due to it being near Ala Mihgo.

OK, so we need to do Binding coil for the different text. Yay...

Do you really want to pressure yourself to clear the Coil just for a few words changed in the script?

[Cilia]

OK, so we need to do Binding coil for the different text. Yay...

Pretty sure you can go in Unsynced and just steamroll it, so it's not like it's a huge hurdle. Just get half a dozen other people who still need it.

Torn between whether or not I want to do it, or just leave it as is so I can document the differences (since 99% +/- 0.9% of story players are going to have done it for that different text).

[PArcher]

Pretty sure you can go in Unsynced and just steamroll it, so it's not like it's a huge hurdle. Just get half a dozen other people who still need it.

Torn between whether or not I want to do it, or just leave it as is so I can document the differences (since 99% +/- 0.9% of story players are going to have done it for that different text).

Honestly, if you don't have it done it may be better to not finish it. Just because of that.

Both my lv60 characters had FCoB done before HW launched, so if I want to see the non-Coil dialog I have to get a third character through the MSQ (which is something I am planning on doing eventually, but don't have the time to right now)


EDIT: And yes, Coil is super easy to do right now unsynced. I'm sure you can get people to run you through easy if you asked around or threw up a PF.

[Frederick22]

Honestly, if you don't have it done it may be better to not finish it. Just because of that.

Both my lv60 characters had FCoB done before HW launched, so if I want to see the non-Coil dialog I have to get a third character through the MSQ (which is something I am planning on doing eventually, but don't have the time to right now)

Well, for now we will have just 1 chanse to see the different dialog.

Remember that on the Unbending Journey we have always the default dialog. Like if we would have never done the required quests.

[Nalien]

Ew, why would anyone want to blow through Coil with zero challenge? You solo/duo/trio that crap or... IDK, you're not invited to my birthday party or something!

OK, but seriously, September 27th? Hmm, 4ish weeks... This might be the reasoning I needed to finally finish Final Coil, assuming the Wondrous Tails log isn't going to give me plenty of reason to jump back in there frequently (I spy T4 and T6 on the bottom line). Been a while since we last tried to duo Bahamut... Doubt the line is going to be massively important though, sounds like it'll just be a nod to the fact that Coil happened, not any form of continuation... Grow a pair SE! Lock the new MSQ behind Final Coil and give Alisaie Phoenix-Egi! Like everyones said, you can steam roll it these days, if ticking a box is more important than enjoying content... One off nods are better than nothing I guess, but it still doesn't make for a particularly good narrative IMO... "I have acknowledged that that was a thing that happened. Now we must never speak of it again and it cannot impact the plot in the slightest from here on...", that's kinda what killed Mass Effect for me...

Phoenix, Crystal Tower... Heck, Dr. Whothinxs Allthoughts and the Nullstone... All seem like very interesting points that could be pulled into the story proper... Instead they're relegated off to side stories and aren't even tied together (Nullstone + Crystal Tower = much enjoyment), because God forbid that people have to actually play the game! Doesn't even need to be MSQ stuff... Tales of the Dragonsong War was an optional set of side quests to tie up Heavensward nicely... Just give me that for stuff like Binding Coil and Crystal Tower... We can tell Tiamat that we've put down Nidhoggs shade, but not Bahamuts? Mehhhhhh... I want to slap Cid in the face with Puss in Boots so we can crack open Crystal Tower and go Nullstone Cloud of Dankness' face for an actual satisfying ending to that saga...

Guess I'll just hold out hope for Deep Dungeons 2, which is apparently definitely a thing and Palace of the Dead is ending on Floor 200... Gonna need a new location for that, and Eureka still strikes me as the absolute prime candidate... If they can finish up our little tragedy with Edda in Palace of the Dead, they can damn well do something similar for Crystal Tower and Deep Dungeons 2: The Forbidden Land, Eureka!

[Theodric]

September 27th is a pretty good date. It gives the hype surrounding Legion time to die down and it also means that 3.5 will probably be at some point in January. I'm guessing the release date played a small part in FFXV's delay though...but at least that is due out towards December.

It'll be interesting to see how the Alexander situation is wrapped up. Honestly I don't particularly like the story - I feel as though Alexander should have been linked to some sort of cult to play up the classic 'holy' element that it has boasted throughout most of its appearances. If nothing else, though, the fights themselves will be pretty fun I think.

Sophia being the second of the Triad fights surprises me. With her statue being the most prominent I figured she'd the third encounter. Given how impressive Sephirot's fight was, though, I think she'll be pretty awesome. Assuming they go with tasteful music for her and not something like Shiva Phase 2...


Xephatol being a dungeon rather than a zone is unusual. Mhach could have been its own zone after all - especially since we're in dire need of a huge outdoor explorable zone along the lines of Lea Monde or Nabudis from Vagrant Story and FFXII. It could be that we go there again in 4.0 but I think it's much more likely that we don't and that if 4.0 is Ala Mhigo we may end up going somewhere else as well. Thavanair perhaps - which would fit, I guess, if 4.0 is the 'Sea' to 3.0's 'Sky'.

Gubal (Hard) is also surprising but...at the same time it isn't. We'll likely go there to find out what Elidibus and the Warriors of Darkness were doing. Alisae will be our excuse for that given what she saw.

The 'battle' against the Warriors of Darkness will likely be some sort of mini-duty rather than it's own Trial. Which also means it probably won't do them much justice and we'll probably see the WoL thrash them. I doubt that they'll be killed off but I do hope we get a 'Beatrix' moment and they absolutely thrash the WoL for a change. At this point it's sorely needed because the WoL's power is becoming tiresome - especially when Hydaelyn is supposed to be barely holding on. Let her 'Blessing' start to waver at key points to show how high the stakes really are and the WoL related stuff should become more engaging.

[Cilia]

The 'battle' against the Warriors of Darkness will likely be some sort of mini-duty rather than it's own Trial. Which also means it probably won't do them much justice and we'll probably see the WoL thrash them. I doubt that they'll be killed off but I do hope we get a 'Beatrix' moment and they absolutely thrash the WoL for a change. At this point it's sorely needed because the WoL's power is becoming tiresome - especially when Hydaelyn is supposed to be barely holding on. Let her 'Blessing' start to waver at key points to show how high the stakes really are and the WoL related stuff should become more engaging.

Exactly when and where the battle will take place... who knows. It looks like it's in a desert region, but beyond that we can only guess - Thanalan, perhaps, but that's not exactly the closest to Ala Mhigo. If it were part of an instanced duty they wouldn't need the ring of fire, so it's probably an instanced fight as part of a quest.

Given this looks like the prologue to 4.0, I fully expect us to get our butts kicked as per shonen standard. If they're supposed to be our rivals, they need to come onto the stage strong and have us work to overcome them throughout 4.0. If we manage to trounce them there and soon, with no negative repercussions on our side, I'm calling shenanigans.

Really, for how rivalries are supposed to work just look at Devil May Cry 3: Dante loses his first battle against Vergil, duels him to a draw in the second, and defeats him in the third. I'm expecting it to play out similarly here, and the "fight" we had with them in Loth ast Gnath doesn't count by virtue of the fact they weren't trying and we never got to cross blades with Darlander's smug prick face.