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    Quote Originally Posted by Garnix View Post
    Did we ever saw this black Carbuncle before ?
    I believe that's the Obsidian Carbuncle he devised after meeting with Matoya; if I remember right he called it against the Garleans on Azys Lla.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    just speculation, but maybe they're able to turn the Primals against their own people with their [Dark] Elemental Crystals? Primals are bastardizations of Hydaelyn, after all... if they're using Crystals made from Zodiark's power, it would stand to reason they could infect Primals with "Dark Aether" and turn them against those they receive worship from... they're missing a sixth so there's one they can't effect, as far as we know. Possibly.
    The whole thing triggers a cascade of darksteelfoil hats for me. I assume the PLD as the Earth Crystal, and the WHM the water. The missing one is Ice... We saw one of those break not long ago. For that matter, history always remembers twelve godlike beings - two sets of crystals, or simply the twelve Archons conflated with those blessed with the Crystals of Light? But that's all a house of cards. (Also Titan's eyes glow red! Red is fire! Fire is one umbral rotation from earth! Warriors of Darkness confirmed! <throws hat to the ground and steps on it>)

    Still, the convictions held by the WoD, and that speech about villains over Urianger...

    Constantly worried that my steadfast loyalty to Hydaelyn and mistrust of Elidibus is going to bite me in the arse, lol.

    But ... in for a ponze in for a tonze. We can deal with the fallout when Darklander's not rocking the boat. <stoic nod, weapon draw>
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    Naria Starcatcher
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    I believe that's the Obsidian Carbuncle he devised after meeting with Matoya; if I remember right he called it against the Garleans on Azys Lla.


    The whole thing triggers a cascade of darksteelfoil hats for me. I assume the PLD as the Earth Crystal, and the WHM the water. The missing one is Ice... We saw one of those break not long ago. For that matter, history always remembers twelve godlike beings - two sets of crystals . . .
    That could be an explanation as to why the player is so powerful--it is normally once crystal per warrior, but we have six. Six crystals for Hydaelyn and six crystals for Zodiark? If I recall correctly we got the Ice crystal from a confrontation with an Ascian early on, perhaps we have been using one of Zodiark's crystals and Yasyle had Hydaelyn's? But where does Krile stand in all this? She has the echo, the blessing, but we haven't seen her with a crystal.

    Quote Originally Posted by SaitoHikari View Post
    I want to propose an alternate theory.

    The Warriors of Darkness didn't have their own crystals. The crystals you see are stolen from you.

    That the crystals are stolen is also a possibility, but it still leaves Ice unaccounted for. Either way I'm now even more convinced that the Alliance leaders were extremely premature in declaring the Umbral Era over. The Dragonsong war seems like it is going to end up being the calm before the storm.

    Either way I'm reaching incoherent levels of sleeplessness . . . so I'm going to go fix that.
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