Patch 3.4 - Soul Surrender

**Harz** · 09-19-2016 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by DarthSanguine

No. It's a Final Fantasy game, so more likely it's Scarmiglione from FF4. Especially with the cloak being in tatters like it is.

Square owns the Ogre franchise now, and if there's any doubt in your mind that Palace of the Dead isn't a reference to it, then listen to this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc8ze7HfmZ4

This is the music used in Palace of the Dead in Tactics Ogre. It is the exact same song used during the 3.4 trailer during the Palace of the Dead segment.

It's going to be Nybeth, the reincarnated versions of Edda and the other various people from our past we encounter in the first 50 floors are strikingly similar to his dabbling with resurrecting the dead in hindsight.

**Cilia** · 09-17-2016 03:57 PM

If it's Ifrit killing Amalj'aa and Titan killing Kobolds... and the Warriors of Darkness who each seem to have their own Elemental Crystal... hmm... just speculation, but maybe they're able to turn the Primals against their own people with their [Dark] Elemental Crystals? Primals are bastardizations of Hydaelyn, after all... if they're using Crystals made from Zodiark's power, it would stand to reason they could infect Primals with "Dark Aether" and turn them against those they receive worship from... they're missing a sixth so there's one they can't effect, as far as we know. Possibly. [/Prophetic Ravings]

Well, it's 100% certain we're heading to Ala Mhigo now.

Not much else to say but the fights look intense. Sophia's music is interesting, like Ramuh's it's very different from the usual action-y Primal fight theme. (Am I strange for being interested in that? It's not like the story doesn't interest me, but there's not enough to make a deduction on except what was already pretty apparent...)

Probably not going to get to bash in Darklander's smug prick face. Still. In the fight scene with them it looked like he had DRG!Derplander bound in chains, so...

**ADVSS** · 09-17-2016 04:00 PM

that ala mighan dude speaker sounds like derplanders voice, and looks like a mystic knight at the same time

**Morningstar1337** · 09-17-2016 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by Cilia

they're missing a sixth so there's one they can't effect, as far as we know. Possibly. [/Prophetic Ravings]

Well of the monoaspected primals 5 of which are the patron of a Beastman tribe. The sixth was not but instead was summoned by a group of Spoken, with Ysayle being the catalyst. Since her sacrifice in Azys Lla, it might be possible to summon Shiva, but unlikely because the Heretics might have no reason to.

**Garnix** · 09-17-2016 04:02 PM

I want Alphinaud's Carbuncle!
Did we ever saw this black Carbuncle before ?
Also, Ida is surprisingly missing in the trailer. They really do not want us to see her face

And...no new beast tribe this time ?? I guess that they didn't want us to have too much goblins in this patch...

Can't wait for the full patch note, and of course for the patch itselfs, as we are finally able to start moving forward, and forget about Nidhogg.

**ZhaneX** · 09-17-2016 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by Garnix

I want Alphinaud's Carbuncle!
Did we ever saw this black Carbuncle before ?

Yoshi-P conspicuously silent on the topic of Pet Glamours, after 3.4 was supposedly going to see the first of their kind implemented...

**Anonymoose** · 09-17-2016 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by Garnix

Did we ever saw this black Carbuncle before ?

I believe that's the Obsidian Carbuncle he devised after meeting with Matoya; if I remember right he called it against the Garleans on Azys Lla.

Originally Posted by Cilia

just speculation, but maybe they're able to turn the Primals against their own people with their [Dark] Elemental Crystals? Primals are bastardizations of Hydaelyn, after all... if they're using Crystals made from Zodiark's power, it would stand to reason they could infect Primals with "Dark Aether" and turn them against those they receive worship from... they're missing a sixth so there's one they can't effect, as far as we know. Possibly.

The whole thing triggers a cascade of darksteelfoil hats for me. ~~I assume the PLD as the Earth Crystal, and the WHM the water. The missing one is Ice... We saw one of those break not long ago.~~ For that matter, history always remembers twelve godlike beings - two sets of crystals, or simply the twelve Archons conflated with those blessed with the Crystals of Light? But that's all a house of cards. (Also Titan's eyes glow red! Red is fire! Fire is one umbral rotation from earth! Warriors of Darkness confirmed! <throws hat to the ground and steps on it>)

Still, the convictions held by the WoD, and that speech about villains over Urianger...

Constantly worried that my steadfast loyalty to Hydaelyn and mistrust of Elidibus is going to bite me in the arse, lol.

But ... in for a ponze in for a tonze. We can deal with the fallout when Darklander's not rocking the boat. <stoic nod, weapon draw>

**Naria** · 09-17-2016 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymoose

I believe that's the Obsidian Carbuncle he devised after meeting with Matoya; if I remember right he called it against the Garleans on Azys Lla.

The whole thing triggers a cascade of darksteelfoil hats for me. I assume the PLD as the Earth Crystal, and the WHM the water. The missing one is Ice... We saw one of those break not long ago. For that matter, history always remembers twelve godlike beings - two sets of crystals . . .

That could be an explanation as to why the player is so powerful--it is normally once crystal per warrior, but we have six. Six crystals for Hydaelyn and six crystals for Zodiark? If I recall correctly we got the Ice crystal from a confrontation with an Ascian early on, perhaps we have been using one of Zodiark's crystals and Yasyle had Hydaelyn's? But where does Krile stand in all this? She has the echo, the blessing, but we haven't seen her with a crystal.

Originally Posted by SaitoHikari

I want to propose an alternate theory.

The Warriors of Darkness didn't have their own crystals. The crystals you see are stolen from you.

That the crystals are stolen is also a possibility, but it still leaves Ice unaccounted for. Either way I'm now even more convinced that the Alliance leaders were extremely premature in declaring the Umbral Era over. The Dragonsong war seems like it is going to end up being the calm before the storm.

Either way I'm reaching incoherent levels of sleeplessness . . . so I'm going to go fix that.

**SaitoHikari** · 09-17-2016 04:26 PM

I want to propose an alternate theory.

The Warriors of Darkness didn't have their own crystals. The crystals you see are stolen from you.

**myahele** · 09-17-2016 04:33 PM

After listing to it a few times I came up with a few bits of what I think the lyrics of Sophia's song

...an ancient rite, on her knees .... The ___asks for penance and into her soul the goddess whispers ...... on an empty heart the world can see (sing?)

There was also mention of wise men mentioned somewhere in her song, kinda fitting since Sophia = wisdom

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