Patch 3.4 - Soul Surrender

**Theodric** · 08-31-2016 05:40 AM

I still think there's more to the tale than Hydaelyn has revealed. I think it's probably that she's just as 'bad' as Zodiark and lusted for power herself - and whilst her intentions may be better than Zodiark's where mortals are concerned I think she's just as liable to exploit them for her own ends. Perhaps her lust for control was what threw the delicate balance into being skewed and as a result she herself is to blame for setting the Ascian's gruesome methods into motion.

**MilesSaintboroguh** · 08-31-2016 05:51 AM

And what do you base that off of?

**Theodric** · 08-31-2016 10:18 AM

Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh

And what do you base that off of?

The simple fact that the trickle of information regarding Hydaelyn, Zodiark, The Ascians and the Warriors of Darkness is so gradual. There's clearly much that we haven't been told or shown yet - and quite a few mysteries to unravel as well such as Minfilia's predicament and why she was put in the position she found herself in at Hydaelyn's demand. Plus it's often the case with Final Fantasy's antagonists for their motivations to have at least some justification. If nothing else I imagine quite a few people will be - understandably - disappointed if the entire conflict is wrapped up abruptly or ends up being very simplistic. I doubt it will be though - call it a hunch, I suppose.

3.4 should provide quite a few answers though - and provide yet more questions in the process. It should be exciting and provide a lot of fresh material for people to discuss and speculate upon.

**Kallera** · 08-31-2016 08:09 AM

I think there is more to the tale(at least I hope there is), but not that Hydelyn is evil so much as misguided, reality apparently broke from her actions. Even if its the world that we are living in, reality's still busted, can't say "oh we'll leave it like this, its fine" Something is clearly missing from this between the fading hydelyn and Derplander's presence, and "Ascian lies, everything's ok." doesn't quite match it up, imo.

**CyrilLucifer** · 09-01-2016 05:48 AM

Originally Posted by Kallera

I think there is more to the tale(at least I hope there is), but not that Hydelyn is evil so much as misguided, reality apparently broke from her actions. Even if its the world that we are living in, reality's still busted, can't say "oh we'll leave it like this, its fine" Something is clearly missing from this between the fading hydelyn and Derplander's presence, and "Ascian lies, everything's ok." doesn't quite match it up, imo.

I agree that misguided is probably the best - and most interesting - bet rather than DARK EVIL LIGHT GOOD. As I've said in the past, I think the FFXI Altana in WotG and Etro in XIII are both very good examples of what might be going on here. Altana loved Her children so much that She almost destroyed spacetime and the multiverse in order to protect them . So She does wrong in Her desperate attempt to not do wrong and give the best life She can to Her children.

Well-intentioned Gods causing more problems is a trope used repeatedly in this series.

I would be very surprised if the story ended up as black and white as some people would like to believe.
Then again, I was completely wrong about how simple the solution to Estinihogg was so I could futilely be hoping that SE is catering to more of an adult fanbase than the shounen crowd.

And, like Theo, I'm really excited to have some new meta material to speculate on.

**Laili** · 08-31-2016 02:48 PM

At the bare minimum, we should be learning what Urianger has been up to meeting with Elydibus; Alisae's return will see that question gets brought to light.

**Rocl** · 09-01-2016 02:55 AM

I wonder if these tomestones are the oldest we've collected yet being "scripture/theology" which has very religious connotations--and the Allag hadn't practiced religion during their last big technoboom? (Though I suppose you could interpret Mythology that way too)

Though labeled a crozier by the Sons of Saint Coinach who unearthed the relic, it is unlikely this crooked staff was used for religious purposes, as it is well documented that most late Third Astral Era Allagans abandoned the theological in order to pursue the technological.

**PArcher** · 09-01-2016 03:26 AM

It's possible they contain studies on the religions of other peoples; who and how they worshiped, idols, Primal-related stuff...

**Alice_89th** · 09-01-2016 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by Nalien

I just noticed...

That Ixali has two pistols... Am I interested that they have that kind of technology? Am I perhaps speculating Sky Pirate Ixali? Nope, I'm annoyed I don't get to dual wield pistols... Excuse me while I add to my Phoenix Wright style freak out...

I am more amused by the fact that it seems to be "flying" by hanging on a hot air balloon.

Originally Posted by rjspencer4

Looks like the Demon is finally stepping out of the Book.

That sounds like weird euphemism x)

**Khalithar** · 09-02-2016 09:51 AM

Originally Posted by Alice_89th

I am more amused by the fact that it seems to be "flying" by hanging on a hot air balloon.

Hopefully this plays during the battle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YL5Q4GybKWc

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