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    Lahabrea claims the only way to bring balance is with the complete excision of Hydaelyn. Whatever version of balance that may be.

    Although maybe we should try listening to the Ascians more carefully to understand their actions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toranja View Post
    Lahabrea claims the only way to bring balance is with the complete excision of Hydaelyn. Whatever version of balance that may be.

    Although maybe we should try listening to the Ascians more carefully to understand their actions.
    Well, to be specific what he says is that she's causing an imbalance, and to stop the physical and aetheric laws of the world from being corrupted Hydaelyn needs to be "burned out like a parasite." What exactly that means is... still up for debate.

    Regardless, Hydaelyn (God, or at least our creator) tells us not to listen to what they say, and given their highly malevolent actions thus far I don't see much reason to do so. I'm willing to hear them out, but it's pretty tough to justify things like Cartenau.
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    Sounds like both see the other as the parasite that is burning out existence.while hydelyn didn't use the exact words, it seems a similar reasoning for the banishment of Zodiark.

    One fear is that the continuing cycle will cause Zodiark's revival and an end to existence as we know it. Could the other be that stopping the cyclical nature of destiny is what causes the end of existence? That without Zodiark's supposed revival there is no one to take the seat of "the mothercrystal" after Hydelyn fades totally?

    /speculation
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    Sounds like both see the other as the parasite that is burning out existence.while hydelyn didn't use the exact words, it seems a similar reasoning for the banishment of Zodiark.

    One fear is that the continuing cycle will cause Zodiark's revival and an end to existence as we know it. Could the other be that stopping the cyclical nature of destiny is what causes the end of existence? That without Zodiark's supposed revival there is no one to take the seat of "the mothercrystal" after Hydelyn fades totally?

    /speculation
    Well she 'banished' Zodiark because he became corrupted after thirsting for more power (they coexisted, so maybe they fed each other their Aether and then one day Zodiark suddenly got a little greedy). I wonder if Hydaelyn can continue to exist without Zodiark...

    Quote Originally Posted by Tenkuu View Post
    Are they being used for that purpose? Yes. But I think saying that they actually exist for that purpose is probably a bit much, especially since we know that they were once Warriors of Light.
    They probably/most likely know what would happen if we continued down the path of ridding the world of Ascians. They defeated Ravana, so their goal doesn't involve the death of Hydaelyn.
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    I... I don't like that the next trial is Sophia. I thought she would be the last one of the Triad, but nooo... Let's leave the most boring of the 3 as the last one the players will fight. I still expect a great fight like always, as well as a great OST. A Shiva-like phase where Sophia unleashes different thunder spells and charm mechanics that makes the players coordinate well where they are moving. Also her ultimate is most likely to be Cloudy Heaven.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fevelle View Post
    I... I don't like that the next trial is Sophia. I thought she would be the last one of the Triad, but nooo... Let's leave the most boring of the 3 as the last one the players will fight. I still expect a great fight like always, as well as a great OST. A Shiva-like phase where Sophia unleashes different thunder spells and charm mechanics that makes the players coordinate well where they are moving. Also her ultimate is most likely to be Cloudy Heaven.
    It would've made perfect sense to pair Zurvan " the god of infinite time and space" with the final wing of Alexander and his time shenanigans, but nooooooooooooo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fevelle View Post
    I... I don't like that the next trial is Sophia. I thought she would be the last one of the Triad, but nooo... Let's leave the most boring of the 3 as the last one the players will fight. I still expect a great fight like always, as well as a great OST. A Shiva-like phase where Sophia unleashes different thunder spells and charm mechanics that makes the players coordinate well where they are moving. Also her ultimate is most likely to be Cloudy Heaven.
    Don't dismiss it just yet. Who knows how they will spruce up Demon (don't know his real name) for this game. Hell, Sephirot's theme was awesome and I'm looking forward to the rest of the Triad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fevelle View Post
    I... I don't like that the next trial is Sophia. I thought she would be the last one of the Triad, but nooo... Let's leave the most boring of the 3 as the last one the players will fight. I still expect a great fight like always, as well as a great OST. A Shiva-like phase where Sophia unleashes different thunder spells and charm mechanics that makes the players coordinate well where they are moving. Also her ultimate is most likely to be Cloudy Heaven.
    Keep in mind that the fight against Sephirot was nothing like how it was in ffvi. It wouldn't surprise me if neither of the two others share anything aside from appearance with their ffvi counterparts as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mholito View Post
    Keep in mind that the fight against Sephirot was nothing like how it was in ffvi. It wouldn't surprise me if neither of the two others share anything aside from appearance with their ffvi counterparts as well.
    You're right. At least Sephirot had Fiendish Rage, so I expect to see Cloudy Heaven as well.
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    But why did Zodiark want power? Power is something that only exists in comparison to the present self, so something would need to have happened for Zodiark to feel "weak." If Zodiark was always powerful, he wouldn't have needed to seek it.

    There has to be something there that we haven't been told.
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