About Tank Design Winner

[SagaSoluna]

And the winner was inspired by soup cans. :/

I'd prefer the PSO2 looking one, the tribal one looked nice too and Zero Signal's looked the most original. But yeah, immersion I suppose.

I played Phantasy Star Online/Universe/2 since 2000 and never really stopped so i would love to see many of the costumes and bosses from PSO2 come to FFXIV, in return for Odin <3
Gosh, how much i would love to fight Dark Falz Luther, with this time-altering abilities, rewinds and time freezes, in FFXIV!

But this was meant to be a contest about creating a set of tank armor, so taking an existing PSO2 set, with a couple diff accessories, recoloring it, and giving it a few extra lines, does not really seem a fair thing to do.
And i am surprised it even arrived as far as it did, given that.

[Kurogaea]

I played Phantasy Star Online/Universe/2 since 2000 and never really stopped so i would love to see many of the costumes and bosses from PSO2 come to FFXIV, in return for Odin <3
Gosh, how much i would love to fight Dark Falz Luther, with this time-altering abilities, rewinds and time freezes, in FFXIV!

But this was meant to be a contest about creating a set of tank armor, so taking an existing PSO2 set, with a couple diff accessories, recoloring it, and giving it a few extra lines, does not really seem a fair thing to do.
And i am surprised it even arrived as far as it did, given that.

And the generic soup can armor with little to no creativity is fine, to his their own. If you want to see more of the same ol'stuff then good for you. I for one like creativity, which is once again the reason why I don't participate in these. Looks different than everything else? Not worth mentioning. Looks the same as everything? must have it.

[SagaSoluna]

And the generic soup can armor with little to no creativity is fine, to his their own. If you want to see more of the same ol'stuff then good for you. I for one like creativity, which is once again the reason why I don't participate in these. Looks different than everything else? Not worth mentioning. Looks the same as everything? must have it.

I do not disagree with you, i also had my hopes placed in some of the more imaginative models :3
I was just specifically pointing out that nearly-copies should not make it to the finals.

I guess i was illustrating a point by using a current example rather than necessarily wanting to claim said example was worse than others.

[Mugiawara]

Ccorris and Gungira had the best one to me. that's literally a recolout of iron works. it's nicely drawn and all....but not original. very disappointed.

[Jynx]

have you created anything better? Has it been judged and won the competition? No? Didn't think so.

Your gonna stand by that...really?

Too bad I'm not around to point out the moment you decide that you didn't like __________ to point out your invalidity of your inane perception on criticism.

[Morningstar1337]

I don't think it's fair for an individual to judge a piece when they aren't in the position to judge it, that's why we had this one judged by the devs and I'm thankful for that. Had this been judged by players, probably some impractical Gobbuue armor or single-thread armor would have won, knowing how impractical this player based is. SE is only looking out for what the fans want. How this 180 on the Allagan Luminous Surcoat happened, baffles me, which is why I am asking... have you created anything better? Has it been judged and won the competition? No? Didn't think so.

(before I continue,, I must say that I wanted the allagan surcoat to win and utterly loath the idea of gag armor like the Gobbule one being role locked)

I'd think its more due to jealousy (Why didn't my favorite design win? its totally more original than this hunk of junk!) or disappointment of a larger problem players have with this game that this might be a symptom of...an affinity of playing it safe.

Consider this, Heavenward, as an expansion, inherently brings the promise of innovation. And I'd like to think they divered on this aspect in certain area, but the more things change, the more they say the same, is in play here. We still got the Gear treadmill left un-changed. Still get the usual itemization problems, The Anima playing out a remixed version of the Zodiac quests and some of the innovations were more to bring them in line with their counterparts (namely BRD/MCH and the concept of Scrips). Plus their initial additions of content, Lord of Vermillion and the Diadem, were massive flops, and well, you know what they say about first impressions.

Overall, after ARR pulled massive changes from 1.0 in a desperate and successful bid to save the game, the brand, and the company, Heavensward seems to playing it safe and taking an "if it ain't broke don't fix it" approach towards most existing 2.0-type content

This might had affect how even the non-mechanical areas of development, including items appearance, and as such while the Allagan Surcoat fits the game, fans might had had a problem because it is as similar to other armors than Gubal Hard and Xelphatol will be to Sohr Khai and Hull Breaker Hard

That said I'm gonna assume Occam's razor is in play and say it more likely that Jeasousy that their favored entry didn;t win is the most likely factor

[ErryK]

Your gonna stand by that...really?

Too bad I'm not around to point out the moment you decide that you didn't like __________ to point out your invalidity of your inane perception on criticism.

The thing is, I'm not relying on just having a winning entry, my issue is is that the person just said "plate armor is boring", and had nothing to back it up. I'm not saying make a winning entry (although that would be best ). I'm saying explain your reasoning. If you were doing a review of a dungeon or in game content, you don't glance at it and say "It's boring because the color blue is there" do you? :>

[Caitlyn]

But this was meant to be a contest about creating a set of tank armor, so taking an existing PSO2 set, with a couple diff accessories, recoloring it, and giving it a few extra lines, does not really seem a fair thing to do.
And i am surprised it even arrived as far as it did, given that.

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I was just specifically pointing out that nearly-copies should not make it to the finals.

My entry have nothing to do with the Phantasy Star Series. Its highly based on the existing Ironworks-gear (which is my all time favorite in FFXIV). Please read my post for some detailed information. If there is an existing or similiar design in PSO2 already, I would like to see those designs. I m really curious, if my design is already taken in another game. I m still wondering, why so many people named it "PSO2 gear" (maybe because of the cross event with FFXIV, who knows) xD

Oh... and btw: Its nearly impossible to create a completely "new" tank gear, because any gearset could look similiar to existing designs from the same or other games. When it doesnt like FFXIV or PSO2, it will definitely look like a copy from Aion, Tera, WoW, Blade and Soul or [insert random F2P MMORPG here] ; )

[SagaSoluna]

I m still wondering, why so many people named it "PSO2 gear"

People say that it looks like it came from PSO2 because it looks to be on the same style as gear from that game, from the shapes to the light effects.
If you say that that it is coincidence then i will believe you, but there is a reason why everyone says "Oh, pso2" hehe

[Jynx]

I'm saying explain your reasoning.

That's not actually what you said. You dismissed their opinion on the basis that they didn't make a winning entry.

If you were this objective with your first statement then you wouldn't be catching flak in this way. Personally I don't mind the winner, I think it's a bit bland compared to what the other entries were to be honest. It's very samey to what we have in the game already and this is a perfect opportunity for the developers to be a little bit more outside the box with their choice of winner.

But hey the devs get to pick whatever they want, I'm just suprised to be honest they went with something so similar to what exists.