All the roles fighting over BLU

[Cabalabob]

So I've seen posts here and there from all 3 roles laying claim to blue mage. Some think it would be a good tank, some think a healer, some think a dps.

So I had a thought. What if it could be all of them?

BLU would simply be a job crystal. No unique weapon type, no traits, no gear. Any class could equip the blue Mage job crystal and learn spells but the spells available would change based on the role of the class you equip it to.

E.G. Gladiator or marauder equips the blue Mage job crystal, they gain access to all the defensive and enmity generating spells like cocoon.

Conjurer equips the blue Mage job crystal they get access to healing spells like white wind.

Pugilist or lancer equips the blue Mage job crystal they gain access to damage spells like asuran claws.

Arcanist or black Mage equips the blue Mage job crystal they gain access to enfeeblement and DoT spells like bad breath.

Archer equips the blue Mage job crystal they gain access to the ranged spells like cannonball.

This way BLU could be any role by enhancing the base class it's equipped to. Being less its own unique job and more a supporting attachment to a class, adding its spells to their own abilities.

[Legion88]

I think BLU wont come with a class like DRK, AST and MCH. And in the mind of the devs it was a big failure to make two jobs evolve out of one class (SMN/SCH) so we will probably never see any class with multiple jobs again.
Another point against this is that a BLU like this is not just 1 Job with all 3 roles it's 1 job per role or 1 Job per class...to much work even for an expansion...so if we would get this kind of BLU we won't get any other job...

But your idea is good and i like it^^

[Blackcanary]

Didn't have to post a brand new thread for this you should of posted this in the Thread called A Home for new Job Ideas, a Thread dedicated to New Jobs. http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...d-to-New-Jobs.

This thread should be deleted.

[Jandor]

OP

I posed something similar a while back:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...55#post3811855

Although I was thinking more that the job would keep the same skills but they'd be diverse enough to be situationally useful to all roles.

This thread should be deleted.

And your thread should probably be in 'other battle systems' under jobs and classes. But meh, who cares... it's not really important.

[Lokier]

Didn't have to post a brand new thread for this you should of posted this in the Thread called A Home for new Job Ideas, a Thread dedicated to New Jobs. http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...d-to-New-Jobs.

This thread should be deleted.

He can post where and how he likes.

[Cabalabob]

I think BLU wont come with a class like DRK, AST and MCH. And in the mind of the devs it was a big failure to make two jobs evolve out of one class (SMN/SCH) so we will probably never see any class with multiple jobs again.
Another point against this is that a BLU like this is not just 1 Job with all 3 roles it's 1 job per role or 1 Job per class...to much work even for an expansion...so if we would get this kind of BLU we won't get any other job...

But your idea is good and i like it^^

The reason SMN/SCH failed was it was a different role coming off of the base class which meant it needed different gear, different stats and a different weapon while also having only 5 skills to make it perform its new role. With this idea BLU wouldn't need any of that, it would use the same base class role, stat, weapon, gear and skill set. With its own skills building on what the base class can do. I think of it kind of like the enemy skill materia in ff7. Using their materia they could set themselves up as any "job" they wanted and then put the enemy skill materia on top of that so they're also a BLU. But for this, instead of giving every BLU spell it would only give the ones relevant to the role it is filling.

[Legion88]

SMN/SCH failed cause they are extreme hard to balance because of the same base class. If such a BLU would be introduced it has to balanced against all of his own kind (9) and all other jobs in his particular role assignment and that is a horrible task cause you can't balance him by changing something from the base class without affecting the original job from this class.

The idea is nice but it is not practicable and in worst case it will kill other possible jobs in the future who would perform on that particular spot like for example GLD+BLU could also be mystic knight (i'm sorry if someone want to see this as DPS instead of tank).
BLU should be his own job without relaying on a class, perhaps he can cross class from every class but to make BLU a job (aka upgrade/expansion) for every class is to much work in terms of balance.

[Jandor]

SMN/SCH failed cause they are extreme hard to balance because of the same base class.

Classes should end at 30. Capped and done. Lancer and Archer would have to have a few skills swapped about but I think it would be better in the long run to have everything post 30 tied to a job stone.

Would certainly solve the SMN/SCH problem.

[Alberel]

There's nothing stopping them giving us a hybrid job that locks into a specific role for duties. Other MMOs already have this. It works. If SE wanted to they could do the same.