SCH / WAR getting changes to not be so dominate in EX-pac

[Valknut]

Famitsu Interview

Q5. Now we'd like to get into job balance. Thanks to your careful balancing, there isn't a single job that can't clear all content. We think that is marvelous, but i feel warriors and Scholars are a little..you know?

Y. Not a little...I think they are sticking out when it comes to utility. I'm not comparing jobs with their personal potential, but when you look at the wide range of utility WARs and SCHs can offer, they are just outrageous.

Q. By that, you mean in an 8 man party?
Y. Not specifically an 8 man party. In any sort of party composition, WARs and SCHs can slip themselves through most situations and their seats are guaranteed. When you compare WARs and SCHs to other jobs, you can say there is a bigger container when it comes to playerskill where the job can carry you and that is what troubles me.

Q. Are you going to touch them in the future?

Y. Not before the expansion and we aren't going to just snipe those two jobs. With the next expansion, we will balance all jobs as a whole including new actions to balance them out. Basically, we'd like to push the other jobs up there, but it's not as simple as buffing the other jobs will equal their strengths so we are still struggling. Systemly and having a pet is what makes it complicated, so we are trying to be careful.

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[Yawnie]

I cant wait to see all the threads that are bound to appear if they do take away war/sch's guaranteed spots

[Supersun]

Of course War is no longer going to be the best

because in Final Fantasy the bandwagon always rolls to Samurai...

[Maltothoris]

Ya, the changes that will come are going to be interesting to think about. Like Yoshi-P said, it's kind of too late to balance the healer and tank classes this late in the game but it will be interesting to see what sort of adjustments will come to the two classes. Will the war's survivibilty be decreased or any other aspects of the job? Will sch's aetherflow abilities be changed or will be the fairy be nerfed even more so? Of course this is like 6-8 months from now so this is a bridge that should crossed later down the road.

[Valmaxian]

Ya, the changes that will come are going to be interesting to think about. Like Yoshi-P said, it's kind of too late to balance the healer and tank classes this late in the game but it will be interesting to see what sort of adjustments will come to the two classes. Will the war's survivibilty be decreased or any other aspects of the job? Will sch's aetherflow abilities be changed or will be the fairy be nerfed even more so? Of course this is like 6-8 months from now so this is a bridge that should crossed later down the road.

For my part, I hope they do more to make other classes equally effective rather than nerfing WAR/SCH. Those two classes are so elegantly designed that it would be a pity to ruin a good thing. Since I main AST, I will speak to it - make both stances affect heals and DPS, and create "Time Bend" ability to reset CD on Draw/Shuffle to help reduce RNG nightmare that is, Draw.

[Kai_Lee]

If they are not touching war / sch until next expansion but if rumors are true we are getting new tank and healer for next expansion, what if the new tank and healer gives war and sch the shaft. Will there be outcrys to buff war and sch?

[Valknut]

Of course War is no longer going to be the best

because in Final Fantasy the bandwagon always rolls to Samurai...

I'm not sure one game being heavy on the SAM is a trend setting event. Even so Most melee got the shaft in recent FFXI from what I have heard. Would be nice to see SAM as a tank though, if it goes to DPS I agree, we won't be seeing much DRG/MNK. They won't let their baby fall behind for months on end like they did with DRG.

[Gemina]

Bad memories of what happened to RDM in XI are coming back to me. It's nearly the same thing. You don't change the job itself per say, but rather change the content around the job(s). What happens is their OP is not only taken away, they become nigh ineffective as a result. How powerful these jobs are, is a big part of their appeal... and perhaps even distaste by players who know what these jobs entail and are like, "Oh hellll no!"

Yes, they have massive utility and survivability, but they are also arguably the most difficult to play to their optimal potential due to that utility. Not everyone can, and those that can are the freakin heroes and heroines that can carry a whole group, and save a raid that would have otherwise failed. What on Earth is wrong with that?

This is atrocious to even think about.

[Rufalus]

What happens is their OP is not only taken away, they become nigh ineffective as a result.

To be clear, it's not a discussion about nerfs. Warrior and Scholar can remain as effective as ever. The issue is needing to increase the utility of other jobs so they can be balanced well against warrior and scholar, increasing the amount of viable choices for savage raid progression groups instead of there just being certain ones which are so obviously necessary. Balancing is a job that is never finished.

[Atoli]

I remember a time when everyone wanted a PLD and not a WAR.
I hate how long the period is already going on in which WAR is OP in everything.
In Newbie chat we literally have people telling the newbies that WAR is the best tank, healer and dps in the game, and you can't even really argue with them because it's mostly true.
Yes, it takes some skill to pull that off, but to me, that is still broken class design.
But for some reason, both SE and the players seemed oddly alright with that for the longest time, so I'm glad to see that SE is planning to bring all classes back to the same table again