Why are people complaining about the relic nerf?

[Pinkie_Pie]

Why? Some are saying its a huge slap to the people who done it. Some are saying to keep it hard so the relic is earned. In Novice chat one was raging about the 210 step and how he just lost alot of money cause nobody will buy his crafted items required for it. Seriously?

[Zigabar]

> Talking about end-game(ish..) nerf in Novice chat.

[Daemius]

*shrug* I understand the frustration but I don't agree with it. I understand people feel like they wasted all that time grinding out the steps as they were but at the same time, this step has been around for what? Nine months now? If one worked on it from the start one would have had their relic for a good long while at this point. Even people that were still working on it up until patch day, they can now make 2 relics for the price of one essentially. People forget the game is as it is so that you can level and gear multiple classes at some point. That's what catch up patches and QoL changes are for.

People complaining about loss of revenue are most likely new to the crafting game, the market is always fluctuating like that, one should know to expect to find new avenues of production to make profit.

[Whocareswhatmynameis]

I personally think this idea of make things hard for 2 patches then nerf the crap out of it is a completely garbage system. It bothers me slightly less though with relic as it's a quest that spans the entire expansion, so i don't neccessarily mind if they make the first few steps a bit easier for latecomers.

[bass9020]

I complain because a good MAJORITY purposely wait for nerfs and SE still won't create interesting concepts for the weapons.

[Crimen]

I complain because a good MAJORITY purposely wait for nerfs and SE still won't create interesting concepts for the weapons.

I think that this is one of the biggest issues. I will admit that although I did start the relic, I stopped at one point precisely because I knew it would just get nerfed. If they were to make them reliant on interesting challenges instead of grinds, or perhaps a combination of the two so that there is a decent balance, more players might feel more motivated. My personal issue is that while the relic weapon itself is interesting, the journey and progress has not been, even since 1.0. Sadly, I really am not too sure what can be done to make it all more interesting.

To those who spent many hours and weeks grinding to get their relic up to now and are legitimately upset that things have been nerfed, people having an easier way to get the weapon does not dismiss your achievement, please do not let it get to you.

[bass9020]

I think that this is one of the biggest issues. I will admit that although I did start the relic, I stopped at one point precisely because I knew it would just get nerfed. If they were to make them reliant on interesting challenges instead of grinds, or perhaps a combination of the two so that there is a decent balance, more players might feel more motivated. My personal issue is that while the relic weapon itself is interesting, the journey and progress has not been, even since 1.0. Sadly, I really am not too sure what can be done to make it all more interesting.

To those who spent many hours and weeks grinding to get their relic up to now and are legitimately upset that things have been nerfed, people having an easier way to get the weapon does not dismiss your achievement, please do not let it get to you.

Thats what I think a lot of people want. Not just a straight up grind fest of RNG items or tons of tome items. I just wish SE would go back to that type of content. Having a mixture and balancing the two is totally acceptable, I know I would I enjoy that much more.

[Gemina]

To those who spent many hours and weeks grinding to get their relic up to now and are legitimately upset that things have been nerfed, people having an easier way to get the weapon does not dismiss your achievement, please do not let it get to you.

This^^ So much THIS! People, understand that players like myself who have yet to even start a relic can never say the same as you when it comes to acquiring said relic. And players like me, have the upmost respect that you went through that grind.

Some people in my FC couldn't understand why I insisted on gathering x100 NQ/HQ logs and rocks for my gatherers despite the requirement being lowered to x30 for your supra/lucis tools, and I told them that this was the old requirement, and that is EXACTLY what I am going to do. I will simply spend the excess on cordials, but I wanted the same grind. I wanted to say the same thing as the players before me, and I will still do it with these relics as well.

[Silica-chan]

people complain about everything these days. This is to hard, that is to easy, something is different from FF11, females got this glamour and males not, this dance looks better on males and so on.
It's a new generation of players where the game has to change to their liking instead of people just accepting and pulling through it the way it is.

It's not just here it's everywhere in any game now.

[Khemorex]

people complain about everything these days. This is to hard, that is to easy, something is different from FF11, females got this glamour and males not, this dance looks better on males and so on.
It's a new generation of players where the game has to change to their liking instead of people just accepting and pulling through it the way it is.

It's not just here it's everywhere in any game now.

seems like the complainers generation if u ask me :P have to feel like a special snowflake all the time