[Spoiler] The Rising Mogstation Update

[Reinha]

I think the problem with that is that for anti cash shop players to do this in a way that "hurts" SE, they'd pretty much have to unsubscribe over it, as for the most part hating the Mogstation but continuing to stay subbed is really just keeping the status quo, and it's a bit unreasonable for anyone to unsubscribe over cosmetics (and with no surveys or anything, impossible for the devs to know that was WHY you unsubbed).

So realistically, all anti-CS players can do is make their displeasure known on the forums and whatnot.

Not buying anything from the Mog Station is also a form of voting with your wallet. You don't necessarily need to unsub to show your stance on the matter. If enough people don't buy anything from the store they probably won't make (as many) exclusives to be sold there in the future. It's the same as when nobody buys a certain item from the grocery store; at some point the store is going to have to stop ordering that item in because it's a loss of money to keep it in their selection. Reversed, when enough people buy a certain type of product the shop will deem it profitable to keep making/offering them.

[loreleidiangelo]

Not buying anything from the Mog Station is also a form of voting with your wallet. You don't necessarily need to unsub to show your stance on the matter. If enough people don't buy anything from the store they probably won't make (as many) exclusives to be sold there in the future. It's the same as when nobody buys a certain item from the grocery store; at some point the store is going to have to stop ordering that item in because it's a loss of money to keep it in their selection. Reversed, when enough people buy a certain type of product the shop will deem it profitable to keep making/offering them.

All they need are enough people to buy the item to cover the cost of developing the art assets or whatever for it. In my experience, that is not a huge amount of money. If only 1,000 people bought cash shop stuff at SE's prices it would still turn a profit, and 1,000 players is like .2% of the playerbase. Meanwhile, the other 499,000 don't like the shop but don't unsub over it, so the shop is "profitable", thus the shop stays. But if 50,000 people cared enough to unsubscribe over it, then the executives at SE might re-think their addition of it.

Do you understand the point I'm trying to make with this? It doesn't take a huge number of people buying Mogstation stuff for the store to be "worth SE's time". Someone even posted a Lodestone scrape that PROVED that not many people were buying the Mogstore stuff (highest was EB with like 11% of players buying at least the $10 version), and yet they keep adding more and more crap to it.

[Welsper59]

All they need are enough people to buy the item to cover the cost of developing the art assets or whatever for it. In my experience, that is not a huge amount of money. If only 1,000 people bought cash shop stuff at SE's prices it would still turn a profit, and 1,000 players is like .2% of the playerbase. Meanwhile, the other 499,000 don't like the shop but don't unsub over it, so the shop is "profitable", thus the shop stays. But if 50,000 people cared enough to unsubscribe over it, then the executives at SE might re-think their addition of it.

Do you understand the point I'm trying to make with this? It doesn't take a huge number of people buying Mogstation stuff for the store to be "worth SE's time". Someone even posted a Lodestone scrape that PROVED that not many people were buying the Mogstore stuff (highest was EB with like 11% of players buying at least the $10 version), and yet they keep adding more and more crap to it.

Yeah, you kinda hit the nail on the head with that. The person you quoted is right, but in an unfortunately unrealistic way. It is voting with your wallet to not buy from a cash shop, but it doesn't need many buyers to prove itself profitable.

It's sort of like RMT on that matter, where while a significantly large majority of the player population do not participate in it, the fact that they spend little to no money being around is enough for them to justify their presence from a handful of buyers.