[Spoiler] The Rising Mogstation Update

[Alexander_Dragonfang]

"The cash shop will never be a problem, they will always let people get the items at events and then they will put them at the cash shop for those who missed them" - White Knights, 2014.

This is really sad, and as this trend increases, we get close to abusive cash shops, because thats how the average gamer is today, SE runs a business and thats where the money is, the idiotic average gamer.

[Delta041]

I hate that the hairstyles are gated behind the rest of the outfit. I couldn't care less about it.

Cash shop items being character bound rather than account wide is an absolute turn off.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

"The cash shop will never be a problem, they will always let people get the items at events and then they will put them at the cash shop for those who missed them" - White Knights, 2014.

This is really sad, and as this trend increases, we get close to abusive cash shops, because thats how the average gamer is today, SE runs a business and thats where the money is, the idiotic average gamer.

It still isn't. This is cosplay glamour, not new designs. When people have said what you've quoted, they mean the latter.

Nonetheless, would you call someone who, say, goes out partying and blows $100 one weekend an idiot? Why? Because they choose to freely spend their money on what they deem enjoyable? You may dislike something, but that doesn't inherently make it idiotic to partake in.

Well when the cash shop was being first teased everyone said this would start happening and they were slapped down and told it would only be for things missed or otherwise attainable in game.

We now pay a sub and are expected to pay extra for stuff they could just as easily stick in the game.

We pay a sub for substantial content updates every three mounts, which include glamour, gear, dungeons, raids, mounts and all that is associated with them. Were this a F2P/B2P, we wouldn't see any glamour whatsoever that wasn't cash shop exclusive and actual content updates would slow significantly. Compare the amount of genuine content updates seen in Black Desert or Blade & Soul to FFXIV; nevermind the enormous grinds both games implore on their playerbases to make the cash shop enticing. BDO is particularly bad because if you want any chance of competing in endgame PvP, you will need to either pay for their sub model or dedicate half your life to monotonous grinding just to keep pace.

[Renius]

I don't mind paying for something I like if it is up to me. They are optional items so to each his/her own choice.
I would however like to see the option to have items dyed rather than buying it and then looking just like every other person that bought it.
They could at least make it an option like buy the undyeable version or pay a couple of bucks more to get the dyable version, or pay some gil to an NPC that only sells the "ability" to dye shop purchased items.

[Alexander_Dragonfang]

It still isn't. This is cosplay glamour, not new designs. When people have said what you've quoted, they mean the latter.

Nonetheless, would you call someone who, say, goes out partying and blows $100 one weekend an idiot? Why? Because they choose to freely spend their money on what they deem enjoyable? You may dislike something, but that doesn't inherently make it idiotic to partake in.

Oh, it is, you just dont want to accept it or simply can`t accept it, and your example isn`t good because a party might have many reasons, just going out because you are bored and want to blow money away is a very idiotic reason to party and in that case your example just proves my point, while if the party has a good reason to be, like an important celebration or conmemoration, then the example serves your point, but since you didn`t specify, the example itself is terrible and doesn`t relate well to the case of this game cash shop.

The cash shop is objectively bad. Money from it doesn`t even go to the development or the salary of the FFXIV developer team. It doesn`t support the game or the people working behind it in anyway. It only takes stuff from the game and puts it behind a paywall. For example, a mount that should have been the reward from the Odin Trial, to squeeze extra money to meet corporative numbers that doesnt even influence the game as a whole, what you pay to this cash shop is basically paying someone else vacations or luxury commodities, and belive me, isn`t yoshida or soken or anyone involed with the development of FFXIV

And that is the issue. When first mentioned the cash shop, many of us called out the dangers of it and a few white knights came here saying yoshida will never do any wrong and that SE is ever-good, divine and holy.

At first only glamour items from events were going to be part of the cash shop ---> Now we have quite a few exclusive items, even event rewards that were supposed to be special and unique for the community that participated can be bought now.
Then the mounts will be just one ---> Now we have several cash shop exclusive mounts (diferent color scheme).
Then content itself was put behind the cash shop ---> Eternal Bonding is basically a cash shop service.
The inventory issues of this game were solved via cash shop ---> Now we will never have a proper inventory system since solving its current issues would be to cut this income source for the company.

And right now it is happening a leveling potion and several diferent class/job skill-quest skip potions, which are being considered to come our way.

At every wrong turn this whole cash shop has taken since it was announced, people like you have been there to support SE and be wrong. Once more you are here. In a few years we will have raiding food, rare crafting materials and maybe even tomestone packages and again, you will be here to support SE and be wrong.

Cause its hurting the game, hurting everyone experience and probably, something that the dev team will never say because they are in a business, hurting their own vision of how they wanted the game to be and play, cause probably all these decisions come just from above them.

[Mwynn]

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The Items in there do not affect the Gameplay at all. I have played tons of Free2Play Games and the Mog Station is in no Way affecting the Balance Ingame.

*We have no Hourly based Buffs to purchase in the Mog Station
*There is no End-Content Gear to purchase in the Mog Station
*There are no Items to purchase on the Mag Station that will give you an Advantage over Players who would not buy such Items

In the last F2P MMORPG I played, you had to slay millions of Monsters and at that Point, nobody did it with their Hands, rather using Third Party Tools. Each Monster would give you around 2.000 EXP
(At Lv.119 you need 21.000.000.000 EXP just to get to 120)

You could buy a Premium worth 30€ to get double EXP *Facepalm*... and yet, half of Server bought that...

The Company added tons of buffed Packages, Items, Potions, Arrows and Premium Packages into their Item Mall. Heck, even a Grappet or a Attack Pet did cost tons of Money.
At all, they restricted the Login, that means once their Server is full, those who do not own a Premium Plus, were not able to log in even after thousand attempts.
For that, there even was a Third Party Relog Tool that relaunched the Game just to try to keep connecting to the Server.

Premium does cost 30€ (Runs out in 28 Days, gives 10% Buff to all Stats, Luck Increase, Teleport Tickets, Ressurection Scrolls, Global Chat Items)
Avatar costs 15€ (Glamour)
Devil/Angel Spirit is a Item that gives you 10-15% DMG Inc, which you can even enhance by buying Items from the Item Mall and increase the stats of that Spirit up to 25-30% DMG / DEF Inc.

At all, if you want to be a good Player that doesn't want to die by a simple one hit, you need to invest over 150-200€ in the Item Mall and that Monthly.

So Please, next time, don't say it is hurting the Game, it is not, as all Items are either Decorative, give you Mounts or change your Character. None of them affect the Gameplay at all or you have no Advantage over Non-Paying Players.

Even the Extra Retainer isn't affecting the Gameplay on other Players. It affects only you and you seriously need to manage your Inventory better if you seem to have a Inventory that is full 100% the entire Time.
A Normal Player is sitting at 20-30 out of 100 Slots and if your Inventory is full of Gear Pieces and such, I think People who have that Problem need to reconsider that they honestly should get rid of these Items that basically sit on their Retainer for half an Year, if not even longer...

People may know there is a Illness called "Compulsive hoarding" in Real Life, and that can even apply in Games.


Inbefore my Fat Moogle Mount crashes down unto Brute Justice and gives me a A8S Clear

[Moomba33]

Then content itself was put behind the cash shop ---> Eternal Bonding is basically a cash shop service.

While it's true you have to go through the cash shop for Eternal Bonds it isn't a paid service. The basic ceremony is free and the paid ones just add more glamour (extra outfit, mount, more colour options for the ceremony, ect).

The only cash shop thing I personally find questionable is that fact that the rented retainers can go on Ventures and list items on the market.