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    Jpec07's Avatar
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    Matthias Gendrin
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 80
    Foresight is absolutely essential as a tank. Being able to know when an attack is coming, and knowing specifically how to mitigate it, is what separates the goo-

    Hm?

    Oh. OH.

    You mean the skill, instead of just foresight in general. That changes things.

    All silliness aside, I kinda agree. It really isn't that great of a skill. It'll smooth out incoming damage some, and is more reliable than some other cooldowns for physical mitigation, but in general it's just kinda lackluster. I still take it because it's a defensive cooldown, and its cooldown lines up pretty well with some other abilities', but I wouldn't mind if they swapped it for something better.
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    aleph_null's Avatar
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    Aleph Alpha
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 80
    Well foresight isn't really comparable to rampart/sentinel or shadow skin/wall, but war also has thrill and vengeance for the bigger mitigations (and IB too but that comes as a package with defiance). For extra physical mitigation war also has raw intuition, and as many have said, war is already in a better place than the other two tanks, so if you boost foresight by class trait, you're just pushing the gap bigger.

    It's true that foresight is lackluster compared to the bigger cds (thrill/venge, rampart/sentinel etc), but I don't think it was meant to be (or should be) comparable to them.
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    Krystalan Deathgiver
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 80
    So much outdated and inaccurate information in this thread... The defensive reduction formula looks like rawdmg*(1-0.0001725*defense) Source. With base i240 defense on tank of 2236, with protect you go up to 2571, and with foresight up to 3085. 1000 raw damage (how much you'd take naked with no cds), will hit a tank with protect for ~556.5 damage, while protect+foresight would be ~467.8. That's a 16% damage reduction. If we assume the defense values will scale the same way they have for the last 40 ilvls, at 270 foresight will be approximately 17%.

    edit: The 5-7% values were based off 3.0 launch gear of i160-180, where defense values were much lower.

    edit 2: fixed fomula, had a + instead of the appropriate *
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    Last edited by Deathgiver; 08-26-2016 at 08:12 AM.

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    Launched's Avatar
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    Rys Sol
    World
    Omega
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    At i239 (all pieces with defence are i240) without Protect, I take 444-487 damage with Foresight and 498-550 damage without it from the level 60 Sphinxes in Azys Lla. That's about 11%-12% physical damage reduction. Not amazing, but it's still pretty decent. Foresight isn't bad.
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    Last edited by Launched; 08-28-2016 at 11:50 PM.

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    Nyghtmarerobu's Avatar
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    Character
    Liaysa Sineos
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 90
    Foresight isn't bad, and tbh, I pretty much keep it on CD in raid if I do any main-tanking and ALWAYS throw it up when I'm tanking adds. Its not in a terrible place, and its stupid to not use it....
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    Character
    Donaria Justicar
    World
    Malboro
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 70
    I use it with my pld like this, bulwark+awareness+foresight=equals great mitigation!
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    Zuzu Belloq
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    Whispers:

    Its better than not using it...

    Flies away~
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    Ena Chleo
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 60
    I tested it on some of those rook enemies outside Azys Lla, it's calculated after protect (So test it with that), and the enemy did about 15-17% less damage. Note these are just my personal tests, I encourage anyone around 230 to go try as well.
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