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  1. #161
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    Nivison's Avatar
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    Nivison Macnaoimhin
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 60
    (Id also think it was great if the pose changes between stances I.E shield oath is shield up and blocking)
    Secondly make it seem more akin to a PLD( or knight for Japanese version). Make it so cover now absorbs all dmg that the targer take but before mitigation. Allowing for a wider use.

    Make it so he can now apply more debuffs allowing the party to do more dmg that way. This would come at the cost of dmg but it\\'d make the PLD feel more like a knight protecting their allies.

    These changes would make the pld aquire a more seperated role from the tanks and may introduce interesting game play for them 2/2
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  2. #162
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    SessionZero's Avatar
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    Ragna Blackmane
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 60
    If any tank is the debuff tank, it should be DRK. PLD makes a better support/off-healer, both in terms of balancing the tank roles and in reinforcing the class fantasy.
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  3. #163
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    zuzu-bq's Avatar
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    Zuzu Belloq
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Archaell View Post
    Wait, are you saying that paladin can sprint? I don't even know how does the sprint animation look like ._.
    You saying a player wouldn't sprint just to see a cool animation?! Just look at DRK sprint, its really well made.
    But if you want a pratical use, players without mount tend Sprint a lot during the first 3 to 6 hours of gameplay even if their jobs depend on TP to attack. Also yes, you should be sprinting on 50~60 dungeons as a PLD if your party can keep up. (Same applies to DRK)

    Quote Originally Posted by SessionZero View Post
    If any tank is the debuff tank, it should be DRK.
    *Stares at WAR Path and Eye*
    Err...
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  4. #164
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    Jandor's Avatar
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    Tal Young
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    Cerberus
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by zuzu-bq View Post
    *Stares at WAR Path and Eye*
    Err...
    It currently isn't DRK, but it should be .
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  5. #165
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    Arg0n's Avatar
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    Character
    Dodogamo Bobogamo
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 100
    Tank classes are balanced quite well.

    Warrior most offensiv tank -> then Darkknight -> then Paladin as most defensive Tank.

    I like to play every Tank, doesn't matter if dailys, primals or alex. All 3 have their own gameplay, style and tankyness.
    Pls don't always change the classes. Atm it's balanced extremly well !
    If a paladin would do the same amount of damage as a warrior, it would be really unbalanced cause a warrior doesnt have that much defensive cooldowns.
    I really don't see the problem. You want to do a lot of damage -> play Warrior. You want more tankyness but lack a bit of damage -> play paladin.

    But it looks like you as a main paladin want to be tanky af and on place nr.1 in dps... that doesnt work out dude
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  6. #166
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    SpookyGhost's Avatar
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    Kori Fleming
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    Marauder Lv 80
    Apparently PLD is getting some small changes. Hopefully they'll at least be good ones.
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  7. #167
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    LilLemay's Avatar
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    Character
    Emily Hunter
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by SyzzleSpark View Post
    With a series of buffs this generous you'd definitely have to throw the other tanks a bone as well.
    Oh definitely, I just don't know enough about the intricacies of WAR or DRK to be able to make a statement on those, I feel as if WAR is in a pretty good place right now so I think mainly it's just DRK that would need a bone thrown it's way to compete with this

    but again.. I don't really know much about those two classes aside from what can be gleaned from leveling it to 60 then never touching it again, so take my opinion with a grain of salt
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  8. #168
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    Reynhart's Avatar
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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    Ragnarok
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Arg0n View Post
    But it looks like you as a main paladin want to be tanky af and on place nr.1 in dps... that doesnt work out dude
    But anything a PLD can tank, a WAR can tank just as well.
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  9. #169
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    Zavier Mhigo
    World
    Hyperion
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    TBF besides WAR, there is something broken about the tanks. PLD is in the worst spot, but DRK still needs changes to not be some awkward step child, SE just thinks DRK is fine because people use it in raids. I really hope that they fix the tanks in 4.0, none of this WAR is the godchild crap. I'm a healer main, but my boyfriend is drk, drk and ast kinda got this short end of the stick, but with healers at least whm and sch are fine. PLD has the shortest of sticks due to dps, if its not a fight that needs dps, PLD is still fine, its just not as safe as I feel it was in 2.0 (from my healer perspective), PLD used to be a tank I could leave alone for a while, then focus on other party members. It is no longer that :/
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  10. #170
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    Ragna Blackmane
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by zuzu-bq View Post
    *Stares at WAR Path and Eye*
    Err...
    >it should be DRK
    >should be DRK
    >should be
    >should
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