Fix paladin. Only Class in the entire game that cannot...

[LilLemay]

My thoughts on Pali changes.

1. Flash needs to do some sort of damage ontop of generating emnity (as many have stated)

2. They could do with some more potency on their skills, to help close that dps gap between DRK and WAR

3. I'd love to see Cover have a bit more range to it, it's odd having to stand right on-top of my target

4. Clemency being insta-cast or just having a shorter cast time would be great.

5. Swap the unlock level of sword and shield oath, that way all the tanks get their emnity stance at 30.

6. Take sword oath and shield oath off GcD but keep them with a shared timer, just like how Defiance and Deliverance are, that way Paladins wouldn't have to waste a GcD turn to swap stances, which might even help their dps a little bit

7. perhaps roll the effects of tempered will into enhanced awareness? so once you unlock enhanced awareness it ups the duration to 24s AND removes slow as well as dodges draw in/knockback effects. Then have tempered will perhaps be an offensive cooldown of some sort? or a defensive cooldown?

[SessionZero]

Dunno if anyone has mentioned this, but also take Shield Swipe off the GCD. DRK and WAR both have interrupts that sit off the GCD and it's infuriating to watch an interrupt-able attack counting down on an enemy name plate while Shield Swipe is also on GCD, when a DRK or WAR can immediately use their interrupt whenever it's off CD.

[LilLemay]

Dunno if anyone has mentioned this, but also take Shield Swipe off the GCD. DRK and WAR both have interrupts that sit off the GCD and it's infuriating to watch an interrupt-able attack counting down on an enemy name plate while Shield Swipe is also on GCD, when a DRK or WAR can immediately use their interrupt whenever it's off CD.

I'm assuming you mean shield bash, not shield swipe? As long as that cooldown wasn't 20s or however long WAR/DRK is.. I'd still say even with the GcD lock PLD still has the best stun simply because theirs isn't stuck behind a long cooldown or reliant on a proc (i'm pretty sure lowblow can be refreshed faster with a proc? maybe?)

[SessionZero]

I'm assuming you mean shield bash, not shield swipe? As long as that cooldown wasn't 20s or however long WAR/DRK is.. I'd still say even with the GcD lock PLD still has the best stun simply because theirs isn't stuck behind a long cooldown or reliant on a proc (i'm pretty sure lowblow can be refreshed faster with a proc? maybe?)

Shield Whatever-the-stun-one-is. I've had more problems stunning on PLD than I do on DRK, but maybe that's just me. Others I've had the discussion with seemed to agree with my assessment, so I just assumed that was the general consensus.

[Archaell]

Shield Whatever-the-stun-one-is. I've had more problems stunning on PLD than I do on DRK, but maybe that's just me. Others I've had the discussion with seemed to agree with my assessment, so I just assumed that was the general consensus.

The stun being without CD provides a lot of utility. When you can time the GCDs right it allows you to chain stun multiple targets, which is one of the differences that makes paladin stand out.

Some changes like extra effects for the duration of the stun would be nice, but I would not touch the GCD.

[Helosie]

Personally I'd like to see the oath's have added effects.
Shield oath: add's a thorns abilities, reflecting damage back to targets. (10 potency)
Sword oath: increase attack speed by 5%.

[Jandor]

Swipe is pretty useful in my experience. Basically if you swipe during a physical ability cast, the bar will complete but the ability won't activate. If you do it when no ability is being cast they won't use any cast abilities (physical or magic) for 6 sec or so, which gives you time to line up your global cooldown so you can get the stun from shield bash in.

Not 100% great but pretty handy from time to time.

[zuzu-bq]

Fix Paladin, the only job that cannot sprint decently with their weapons drawn.

[Fernosaur]

Shield Whatever-the-stun-one-is. I've had more problems stunning on PLD than I do on DRK, but maybe that's just me. Others I've had the discussion with seemed to agree with my assessment, so I just assumed that was the general consensus.

Oh hell naw. Shild Bash being a spammable GCD weaponskill makes it so Paladin can chain stun mobs during trash pulls, which makes for great mitigation, and also so that they can run around stunning ads in mechanics in which you want to prevent a target from reaching X location, like the gels in A3, the Plasmas in A6S or the True Heart in A7. This is part of Paladin's utility and why our stun is imo superior to other classes.

The downside, ofc, is that it interrupts your combos if you have to throw it out to interrupt THAT ONE attack from the boss, but hey, I'd rather have that than make our chain-stunning skills the same boring 20s CD as the other tanks. The classes are already monotonous as they are.

Plus, Shield Bash is suuuper strong in PvP!

[Enkidoh]

Swipe is pretty useful in my experience. Basically if you swipe during a physical ability cast, the bar will complete but the ability won't activate. If you do it when no ability is being cast they won't use any cast abilities (physical or magic) for 6 sec or so, which gives you time to line up your global cooldown so you can get the stun from shield bash in.

Not 100% great but pretty handy from time to time.

Shield Swipe only prevents physical abilities not magic, as it afflicts the enemy with the Pacification debuff that prevents weaponskills from being executed (they still telegraph them as you stated, but the effect doesn't occur and the enemy just sits there looking stupid). Hence magic abilities just ignore this (which is what Spirits Within is for with it's Silence effect).

But yes, I agree Shield Swipe's potency is very underestimated - Sheltron ensuring you should be able to use it fairly frequently.