!I'M SO SCARED!..Future Savage raid discussion.

[Undeadfire]

This turned out to be untrue. Like Ratfinx and the robots are, maybe. Brute Justice is way harder than anything in Second Coil though.

A5S is easier than A1S and level of Turn 6 release.

A6S wasn't THAT hard, it was just Blaster being a RNG god. 1 mine that almost 1 shots a tank at low Ilvls and have to grab 2, and the Mirages 1 shot anyone except Tanks if you screwed up. 2 mines screwed Mirage baiting positional.

Brute Justice is difficult, but it doesn't come close to A3S.

[StrejdaTom]

A5S is easier than A1S and level of Turn 6 release.

A6S wasn't THAT hard, it was just Blaster being a RNG god. 1 mine that almost 1 shots a tank at low Ilvls and have to grab 2, and the Mirages 1 shot anyone except Tanks if you screwed up. 2 mines screwed Mirage baiting positional.

Brute Justice is difficult, but it doesn't come close to A3S.

Well this completely depends on subjective opinions.
I have cleared A4S pre-neeeeerf and I have much harder time clearing A8S (currently in last phase) than clearing A3S and A4S together.
I don't really think that Midas is much easier than Gordias except for A5S which is joke. On the other hand I am completely fine with the difficulty.

[Brannigan]

A5S is easier than A1S and level of Turn 6 release.

A6S wasn't THAT hard, it was just Blaster being a RNG god. 1 mine that almost 1 shots a tank at low Ilvls and have to grab 2, and the Mirages 1 shot anyone except Tanks if you screwed up. 2 mines screwed Mirage baiting positional.

Brute Justice is difficult, but it doesn't come close to A3S.

I'm not sure what Gordias difficulty has to do with Midas not being between Second and Final Coil. As I said, a5s and a6s are probably about where they should be (between second and final coil), but Brute Justice certainly is not.

[Pasquale]

Since Midas was reportedly set to be between Second and Final Coil in difficulty, next tier could simply be FCoB-level difficulty, which would be fine to me. Not like every raider is going to clear it in a week.

Yes but FCOB difficult(too easy) was the reason why gordias later was too hard.. What i mean is the only thing that people didnt complain ( other than the crying baby who always complain) is Midas

[Sparktacus]

Yes but FCOB difficult(too easy) was the reason why gordias later was too hard.. What i mean is the only thing that people didnt complain ( other than the crying baby who always complain) is Midas

That really is your opinion, and a very unpopular one as well. It's an echo from release when two teams beat it within first week. However, did you know that only 5% of the NA population beat it within 6 months? 5% laughs at your "too easy" . 15% of the JP community as well, I'd say 20% is respectable in terms of the needed development hours.

[FeliAiko]

Yes but FCOB difficult(too easy) was the reason why gordias later was too hard.. What i mean is the only thing that people didnt complain ( other than the crying baby who always complain) is Midas

It wasn't "too easy". People just foolishly based their verdict not on their own personal experiences of the fight, but on how long it took the top statics to clear it. There's a difference. That's also the reason Gordias was tuned the way it was, because SE wanted to roadblock those top statics as much as possible.

[Atoli]

I don't remember anyone complaining about Coil. Everyone loved Coil in comparison to Alex.
Fun, interesting fights which could be beaten without a static if you put in the effort, but still hard enough to encourage having one.

I'd enjoy if Alex became like that, but tbh, it wouldn't save it anyway. Whocareswhatmynameis said it already: there is no real incentive to do savage mode except for enjoying the dificulty (and guess what, the people who do that are unsurprisingly a really tiny minority, others only do it for the rewards). But since you get to play through the fight, see the story and wear the pretty new clothes through normal mode already, there isn't an incentive to do savage at all for many players.

[Kai_Lee]

They should make the next 4 floors of Alexander so hard its practically impossible to beat so hardcore static group have something to aim for even tho you cant beat it. That way everyone else would do normal mode and keep that mode always busy.

And the hardcore group have something to enjoy even tho they will never get any gear from it but can brag how they almost came close to beaten A10 savage.

[SpookyGhost]

They should make the next 4 floors of Alexander so hard its practically impossible to beat so hardcore static group have something to aim for even tho you cant beat it. That way everyone else would do normal mode and keep that mode always busy.

And the hardcore group have something to enjoy even tho they will never get any gear from it but can brag how they almost came close to beaten A10 savage.

Yeah, that worked well for Gordias.

[KaitlanKela]

Coil was fine.

IMO, they need to make Alex NM a bit more midcore and leave Savage where it is. Either that, or keep it one difficulty and scale it to BCoB/FCoB level period.