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    myahele's Avatar
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    Tonrak Totorak
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Most of the nerfs were expected, but what surprised me the most was that they made HQ items available from the GCs. They more or less "nerfed" that step by making the items no longer needing specialized crafters. As far as I know they didn't make the items from desynth (ARR era relic) available in other ways as a form of nerf, so why this?

    They really need to stop making crafters needed in these relic steps if this is what they'll end up doing.
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    Nalien's Avatar
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    Taisai Jin
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    Twintania
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    Lancer Lv 64
    Quote Originally Posted by myahele View Post
    They really need to stop making crafters needed in these relic steps if this is what they'll end up doing.
    As a crafter, I don't even want these recipes... I want to make equipment that will be used and worn... Items to turn in, or pieces that exist solely for Glamour, irritate me...

    Heck, I don't even need to sell anything to feel crafting is worthwhile... Adapt that Collectors system such that I can make a "legendary" piece of equipment to use and cannot be sold, and I'm happy... I'd love to kick Gerolt out of the relic quests honestly, let me craft the damn weapon, perhaps having the Collectability rating determine the grindy-ness of the quest objective (low Collectability = farm 12 Atma, high Collectability = farm 1 Atma, for example).

    Crafting has ended up so damn disappointing in this game... Such an interesting system that just serves so little purpose thanks to the games progression system and rate gear is shelved... Most of the time I find myself using crafts, the entire Quality aspect of it just goes out the window, granted I don't craft for Gil (because I have no use for Gil...), but furniture and beast tribe quests aren't the most taxing of recipes... No idea why they didn't give the Moogle quests a similar quest sync system as the Vanu Vanu, then maybe the recipes could have been more than a formality... Slapping the materia system on all gear going forward doesn't help at all... i220 sets could have been viable, but I can meld i230 as well... Granted, less slots, but why would I piss away Gil penta-melding a set which is basically weaker and that'll be replaced in a few patches anyway? The investment simply isn't worth it, that's why I think a relic quest style approach to crafted gear makes more sense... Let me take my Eikon gear and improve it over time, then it's worth bleeding Gil into the crafted sets IMO...
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    Last edited by Nalien; 08-24-2016 at 03:21 AM.

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    TiaHariberux3's Avatar
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    Empty Inside
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    Lich
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by myahele View Post
    Most of the nerfs were expected, but what surprised me the most was that they made HQ items available from the GCs. They more or less "nerfed" that step by making the items no longer needing specialized crafters. As far as I know they didn't make the items from desynth (ARR era relic) available in other ways as a form of nerf, so why this?

    They really need to stop making crafters needed in these relic steps if this is what they'll end up doing.
    First of all there is no spec needed for those items since ages thats why it was pretty cheap to make. People act like as if its hard to get gil in this game lol. Also they never nerfed crafted items after 3.0 release for ARR relic because its cheap anyways and before 3.0 it was the same ilvl than the raid weapons.
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    Centershock's Avatar
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    Yuji Kiritani
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    Mateus
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TiaHariberux3 View Post
    First of all there is no spec needed for those items since ages thats why it was pretty cheap to make. People act like as if its hard to get gil in this game lol. Also they never nerfed crafted items after 3.0 release for ARR relic because its cheap anyways and before 3.0 it was the same ilvl than the raid weapons.
    Prices always depends on your server. What may be cheap for your server may be expensive elsewhere. And there are those people who don't have hours upon hours (some of us have jobs) to play this game who have a much more difficult time earning gil than those that do have the time.
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Centershock View Post
    Prices always depends on your server. What may be cheap for your server may be expensive elsewhere. And there are those people who don't have hours upon hours (some of us have jobs) to play this game who have a much more difficult time earning gil than those that do have the time.
    I sure know that its different but Im also sure it isnt expensive (checking other servers if Im bored and there isnt much of a difference at all I mean I was on a very small server who made them higher price than most server that I checked across all datacentres)no matter which server you are on. I dont spent much time on getting gil or craft and its still easy to get gil. Gil is smth you can get while being offline you dont have to be online 24/7 to make gil also buying mats/gather them have a crafter as friend etc. all those things can help you to achieve this. Oh wait people have to be social for that I forgot. Its the fault of the players who dont check stuff and just assume market board price are fair. So many people buy glamour stuff for 3m gil which cost like 200k to make thats how players are (some of those people dont even have much gil and spent everything they have cause of such stuff). Hell there are some mats from ARR that are so easy to farm for gil from coils/desynth coil gear aint no way I believe its hard to make money these times. Even ARR maps can give you mats worth alot (mariner cotton cloth) or check patchnotes a friend of mine checked patchnotes and bought all of the mariner cotton cloth for like 8k each and sold them for 400-500k each. But okay if you really have no time for doing a few coil runs/map etc then maybe relic is not the right thing for you? Because in the end you will stuck at the other steps anyways. Dunno why people waited for this nerf in general when the step came out and if you did dailies and maybe 1 hr of farming or less each day you could have it months ago.
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