It’s also all but a given that the expansion will include at least two new jobs.

[Kabzy]

Why on Earth does a Scholar GAINS MP when he spends more time DPSing?! (by virtue of Energy Drains).

Energy Drain does give back MP, but a full time DPSing Scholar will not stay at 100% MP. The DoT rotation along with Broil fillers use up more MP than you get back via Energy Drain and Aetherflow. Not to mention that when we do have to mitigate/heal, our MP costs are significantly higher. If there's one thing that does seem to be balanced among the three healers at the moment, it's MP management. None of the three really seem to struggle with it, it's definitely not a skill you have to learn like 2.x WHMs had to.

One thing I do agree on is that if we do get a fourth healer, it should definitely be competitive with Scholars. However, given how badly they implemented Astrologian I'm hoping they just make a new Tank and DPS.

If we do get another shield based healer though, I would like for Astrologian to get Noct. sect removed and a 'slight' buff to their card game. I think the majority of buffs need to go to White Mage, especially if they make the Mind party bonus universal. It has no niche outside of stronger heals, which so far have not been necessary in any content.

[Rennies]

White Mage also has the niche of extremely high AoE burst damage for a healer. Scholar might have the most sustainable AoE, and Astrologian has a stunless, lower cost ranged version of Holy, but neither of them can kill a group as fast as the Holy/Aero3/Holy/Assize/Holy spam combo.

[Kabzy]

White Mage also has the niche of extremely high AoE burst damage for a healer. Scholar might have the most sustainable AoE, and Astrologian has a stunless, lower cost ranged version of Holy, but neither of them can kill a group as fast as the Holy/Aero3/Holy/Assize/Holy spam combo.

This sounds more like dungeon content though. When talking about balancing jobs you need to consider end game raiding content. There aren't a whole lot of situations where a healer will need to AoE DPS in savage, and with WHM being a main healer they won't have much of an opportunity anyway, or won't have accuracy melded to even pull that off. Plus it wouldn't be feasible in most situations during progression due to mana.

As it stands, if they make the Mind bonus universal I do think WHM will need the most buffs. Having the strongest heals is never going to make WHM shine, as they can no longer make content where it will be required. Otherwise they alienate AST from a party position and create yet another AST related imbalance.

[BloodPact]

In the end, Scholar is fine, Astro need a rework anyway for his cards and stances, and White Mage need a nerf.

...lolWhat?

[DeadRiser]

They technically added 4 classes. That's what they were having problems with. Releasing Ninja in 2.4 (or 3, I can't remember) along with the 3 for expansion.

I would LOVE to see another tank class but it will not bring tank numbers up. You will always have a few more as healers, and the majority of players as dps (regardless of how bad they are lol).

We know for a fact they are releasing SAM. There's no doubt about it. Just not sure what they are going to do with it.


IF they release a new healer... I really really really really hope it's dancer.

[ADVSS]

probably afraid to implement those two we think itll be after seeing so many heated debates on whether to make them tank dps or healer, so theyll give us two ones we didnt even see coming. or ffxiv "exclusive " jobs.

[gehrtalert]

What about a samurai that splits into tank and dps jobs like Arcanist does at 30? Have a heavily armored, defensive samurai as a tank and a lighter version with more emphasis on speed or whatever for dps.

[Nekotee]

I doubt they will make an other twin class
Beside same problem as arc

If you got tank you need VIT trait if dps you need STR or DEX
Which mean switching

[Ceasaria]

From Reddit "Part II: Other Japanese Community Related Questions to Yoshida and Answers from 3 Year Anniversary Broadcast.":

- Yoshida almost slipped through the amount of jobs 4.0 will have (It's related to the Moonfaire Faire)

So, 3 rangers = 3 jobs

Samurai for Yellow, Red Mage for Red, and Necromancer for Black

[ADVSS]

From Reddit "Part II: Other Japanese Community Related Questions to Yoshida and Answers from 3 Year Anniversary Broadcast.":

- Yoshida almost slipped through the amount of jobs 4.0 will have (It's related to the Moonfaire Faire)

So, 3 rangers = 3 jobs

Samurai for Yellow, Red Mage for Red, and Necromancer for Black

really now?

EDIT: Just read the article from reddit, and also a new thread just got added with pretty much the synopsis of that, this is cool now its time for more speculating