Raiding as AST

[Aurelle_Delacroix]

It's possible to clear any raid content with any combination of jobs. Of course some are preferred or some may make things a bit easier, however currently there are no jobs that are not Savage able. SCH has great DPS and great mitigation but AST has it's own perks. Just enjoy the game and enjoy the progression.

[Watachy]

It's possible to clear any raid content with any combination of jobs. Of course some are preferred or some may make things a bit easier, however currently there are no jobs that are not Savage able. SCH has great DPS and great mitigation but AST has it's own perks. Just enjoy the game and enjoy the progression.

That's the whole point, i enjoy and love playing AST and my static don't asked me to switch to SCH but i want to do the things properly to have some progress with my friends !
Thanks for your reply anyway !

[_slowpoke_]

It's possible to clear any raid content with any combination of jobs.

Eh, not really, if you look at the clear rates for groups in Midas Savage on FFLogs. Last time I checked, there are a grand total of 6 (SIX) groups with a N.AST who have cleared A8s. Only two of those were N.AST mains (the others were SCHs or WHMs doing it on N.AST for funnsies after having it on farm), and only one did it before 3.3 (i.e., when the buffs horrible bandaid to Nocturnal happened). For another job combination that's not viable, look at clear rates for DRK/PLD tank combos - there are literally zero clears of A8s with this combination on FFLogs.

Yes, you can clear the early Savage turns with WHM/AST, but it's still a horrible combination due to many factors, one of which being that Diurnal AST is the objectively superior choice even within the job. We don't even have to start why N.AST can't compare with SCH.

[Watachy]

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Thanks for your reply, i know that just a few people are playing as N.AST and i also know that in potency the N.Ast is inferior to the SCH or the D.Ast, im not much into the fflogs observation, can you give a link that see the downs ?

As i said, we're not on A8S we didn't even started A5S, we went thougth a lot of roster changes and will see if we can get a real static for a few months ^^
Anyway thanks for your reply and to add something, im not against changing to SCH for some fights, but i do prefer the AST gameplay ^^

[_slowpoke_]

Thanks for your reply, i know that just a few people are playing as N.AST and i also know that in potency the N.Ast is inferior to the SCH or the D.Ast, im not much into the fflogs observation, can you give a link that see the downs ?

https://www.fflogs.com/rankings/10#b...ec=Astrologian

These are all ASTs who have cleared A8s in a WHM/AST combo. It's actually up to 8 people now, and I'm too lazy to go through all the logs again to see who mains N.AST and who doesn't, but it's still a very strong indicator of how broken N.AST currently is, especially since D.AST is doing fine in terms of clears (when partnered with a SCH).

The thing that bandaid did was just made astro better in shields.

Even this is debatable because a large reason why SCH is so good at shielding is Deployment Tactics. A N.AST has nothing that can equal even a non-crit, properly deployed Adlo¹, and with most fights being structured the way they are, this makes SCH shielding still vastly superior to N.AST.

¹ "Properly deployed" refers to said Adlo being cast on a WAR in Defiance with Convalescence up. Mantra, Fey Illumination, and/or Dissipation are optional but highly increase the absurdity of the resulting shield.

[KarstenS]

It's actually up to 8 people now

Interesting. So if we beat it in our current combination we are in something like a Top 10