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  1. #31
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    Yurimi's Avatar
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    Nixi Sarcia
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    Leviathan
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    In a 4 person party 2 is enough to get the motion to pass, 4 in an 8 man is enough to get it to pass.
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  2. #32
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    AlphaFox's Avatar
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    Rena Ryuugu
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    Coeurl
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    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Yurimi View Post
    In a 4 person party 2 is enough to get the motion to pass, 4 in an 8 man is enough to get it to pass.
    Which is kind of the downside to it. All comes down to who pulls the trigger first to kick the other in 4man.
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  3. #33
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    Ametrine's Avatar
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    Diantha Sunstone
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    Goblin
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    Scholar Lv 70
    I've only had an experience this vile once, reported it, and was contacted by a GM in a few hours.

    It's worth reporting for sure.


    But yes, remember you always have the option to vote-kick toxicity away.
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  4. #34
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    BunnyChain's Avatar
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    Rena Cebe
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    Moogle
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    Conjurer Lv 1
    Go ask reddit why a "bad-commendation" (downvote) is a bad idea.

    Report, vote-kick, if that doesn't work - leave duty.
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  5. #35
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    Frowny's Avatar
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    Rai Dolabnha
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    Faerie
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    Lancer Lv 90
    You also fed into it by provoking (rather, adding fuel by giving him what he wanted: a reaction) him and there was 0 need to mention sexuality... Next time, do a vote kick and just report.
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    Last edited by Frowny; 08-18-2016 at 06:25 PM.

  6. #36
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    Archaell's Avatar
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    Arch Idealist
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    Alpha
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    Blacksmith Lv 100
    This game has a serious problem - when you report facts, not even report, when you present an evidence of the said facts with names included it is considered naming and shaming... nope! The player has shamed themselves by their own actions so posting the chat log should not be considered naming and shaming at all... yet it is.

    Some "naming and shaming" would be nice for a change tbh. Too many players are exploiting this nice immunity of having no track record and then the rest of the community has to suffer them because the report feature is ineffective.
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    The main reason why the Party Finder is not working for the harder content and so many groups disband after few wipes is caused by the players who ignore the comments.

    Getting to the phase XYZ once does not mean you are ready to join parties to do XYZ.

    Parties should spend most of the time doing the phase that is written in the comment not trying to get there.

  7. #37
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    revonine's Avatar
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    Morri Umi
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    Cerberus
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    Scholar Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Frowny View Post
    You also fed into it by provoking (rather, adding fuel by giving him what he wanted: a reaction) him and there was 0 need to mention sexuality... Next time, do a vote kick and just report.
    I'd have to agree. Your essentially giving him ammunition to use against you by mentioning things like that. Your sexuality was none of his business. He wasn't worth your time so tempting as it might be to defend yourself have zero tolerance for it. just kick and report instead.
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  8. #38
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    Kallera's Avatar
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    Etoile Kallera
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    Mateus
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Archaell View Post
    This game has a serious problem - when you report facts, not even report, when you present an evidence of the said facts with names included it is considered naming and shaming... nope! The player has shamed themselves by their own actions so posting the chat log should not be considered naming and shaming at all... yet it is.
    I remember mining in ffxi when I came across a fellow miner who ended up mining in the same spot I was. back then this was considered a no no, but he was so frightened that I would rat him out over the internet and across the server that he tried paying me off with a darksteel ore.

    We may have a need for accountibility, but what you are looking for is playing with fire. It wouldn't take a lot of time before "some naming and shaming" turns into "whole broadcasts on social media" which would fuel harassment in game.
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    Last edited by Kallera; 08-18-2016 at 10:58 PM.

  9. #39
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    NovaLevossida's Avatar
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    Kaiser Sturmwind
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    Famfrit
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    Marauder Lv 50
    I guess I can kind of see where the angry player was coming from. Sounds like you were in a regular dungeon where nothing at all is a threat, and no amount of skill is even demanded from the players. The only times you ever die in those dungeons are from the tanks pulling too much or a healer completely not handling a simple but critical mechanic on boss fights (Satasha Hard, Slime -> Tail Screw for example). I have to wonder if the gameplay was such an issue that it was even worth bringing up given that we all know how people react to advice.

    Beyond that, if you do argue with someone like this, you just encourage them, so don't do that next time. Just initiate the vote kick if it's that big of an issue. If they kick you instead, that might be a measure of injustice in the cosmic sense, but it does get you out of that group and allows you to queue again.
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  10. #40
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    Urthdigger's Avatar
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    Eyriwaen Zirhmusyn
    World
    Hyperion
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    Scholar Lv 90
    I really wish we could name and shame players who play terribly. Maybe then people would give two shits about their party members.
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