Customary "When are summoners getting new summons" thread

[Rufalus]

I might start playing summoner again when they let us use the carbuncle glamor for egi. I know they are putting a lot of resources into a more elaborate system but I would be fine with just reverting to the arcanist's carby pet and nothing more. I think lots of people will use carbuncle.

[Kaoru_Nagisa]

I will never be satisfied with my summoner until I have a tiny Shiva alongside me to match with the rest of my character's theme :c Hopefully we'll get lucky and get at least the other three ARR primals alongside some carbuncle glamours when 3.4 hits (if they actually stick to what they said and give it to us then..)

[AlphaFox]

Thing that makes me wonder though, are they simply skins like with our glamour or will they be a glamour per role. Like that Shiva can only glamour over Ifrit or Garuda but not over Titan and so on with the others.

[AlphaFox]

You know would also blow minds? Glamour has a fair habit of being dyeable, solid pink Carby anyone? Maybe blood red? Just a minor hope seeing as the colors don't seem to be limited the blue/gold. I thought the black one was interesting but then a solid white, unless there is some kind of lore reason to it? Not saying the Egis should be dyeable but for carbuncle sure would be an interesting site.

[Fland]

if it's only glamour, then what would happen to the pet's skill animations? (especially enkindle)
are they going to stay the same?
would my emerald carby perform aerial blast?

[LineageRazor]

if it's only glamour, then what would happen to the pet's skill animations? (especially enkindle)
are they going to stay the same?
would my emerald carby perform aerial blast?

This, frankly, is the reason it's taken them so long to implement them. There's not many changes that need to be made for Emerald and Topaz Carbuncle, since they already have equivalents to their Egis' moves, but they do need a new Enkindle animation (Searing Light would be a good choice for Emerald Carby, since that's the ultimate move Carbuncle used in FFXI). Similarly, any other Glamours will need to have entirely new animations designed for every ability they mimic. If you glamour Shiva over Ifrit, for example, it wouldn't make a lot of sense for Shiva-Egi to use moves like Inferno or Crimson Cyclone! She would instead use Diamond Dust and Glacier Bash.

It's also why I believe that each glamour will likely only be able to be applied to one type of summon. Otherwise, they'd need to make animations for all three summons, for every glamour!

[Khalithar]

When? Probably never. It's pretty clear to me that SE has basically abandoned the pet system at this point outside of anything glamour.

[Ametrine]

Thing that makes me wonder though, are they simply skins like with our glamour or will they be a glamour per role. Like that Shiva can only glamour over Ifrit or Garuda but not over Titan and so on with the others.

I think it would be this as the different forms currently allow other party members to discern it's abilities, as egis don't shown on party lists unless it's yours.

I would be fine with this, myself.

Unless glamours are client side.

[AlphaFox]

Unless glamours are client side.

Oh, how I hope not. Then again with the whole Gauss Barrel being user only on the visual, guess it won't shock me if they do.

[Ametrine]

But, these aren't new summons. If anything, they are the final indicator that we will never get new summons.

But, what could new summons do that isn't covered by the current ones? We have a buff healer, regen healer, melee DPS, ranged DPS, and tank....

A debuffer maybe, but SMN/SCH themselves have skills to cover that, so it would be redundant unless it was attached to another job, I think.