Thread: BRD/MCH in 4.0

I definitely think we'll see at least one or two abilities to make life easier whilst The Wanderer's Minuet is up (like a cd that makes the next ability instant cast or something). Machinist already has some abilities like this so I have no idea what they'll get (maybe more debuff-type utility to mirror Bard's buff-type utility?).
Personally, all I want from 4.0 Bard is new songs. Hell, I'd be happy if all 5 new abilities are songs (though most would probably foam at the mouth from sheer rage).

Originally Posted by Vifrague

I think we are going to get the option to drop our support class and be a pure DPS bard= Ranger mch= musketeer but I don't see them removing GB or WM

Unfortunately for all the Rangers / Musketeers out there this can't and won't ever happen because it'd require them to dismantle both jobs in their entirety and rework them, except with two new jobs added to the mix. So we'd essentially have 4 new jobs, and since they've already said they struggled to create 3 new ones for an expansion, I doubt they'll do anything like this with existing jobs (hence why SMN/SCH will likely remain fused for the entirety of the game's life, despite the devs acknowledging that job-branching in such a way just doesn't work).

Originally Posted by Vifrague

I think we are going to get the option to drop our support class and be a pure DPS bard= Ranger mch= musketeer but I don't see them removing GB or WM

Um, I'm pretty sure that's what they wanted to do with WM...

Imo I think BRD should be able to cast whilst moving whilst reducing the current damage output. Buff the support songs and add a haste song for the melee classes out there to cover the lack of BRD dps.
I mained BRD in 2.x and I liked the idea that they should be more of a support/dps class than full on dps (I know it wasn't utilized as a support most of the time in 2.x)

Sadly, i've gotten used to the cast times. It would be SO MUCH BETTER if we could have our mobility back though.

Bard is obviously the 'forgotten' step child class. We will never get an expansion that is based off us, like Heavensward was for dragoons, and the next will be for monks. And we'll always get the afterthoughts (OH damn we forgot bard! lets just make them into a caster to make them happy!) when it comes to new skills. I seriously doubt anything got really tested last time around... so why expect the next to be better?

You are reading way to far into the post.

Derplander was archer in 1.0, so no I don't think he will be back to archer/bard anytime in the future.

Frankly, if people are turning away from BRD because they can't adapt, I'm more than okay with it. There are enough awful BRDs at 60 as is.