Unofficial Census 2016 for FFXIV

[Enkidoh]

The census data was taken right off of lodestone. It was a simple set of scripts that tracked active players. I guess the lodestone is an unofficial source now ;p

Do you really think these stats could be off by a significant amount? Yoshi P. said this game need 500k subs to survive, not thrive, not fluorish, survive. This game is sitting at that lower limit. At least I have a statement from the game producer and lodestone data backing my argument. You just have 'opinions' and 'feelings', lawl.

Yet somehow this game is still going strong despite it, with SE clearly making enough money from the game to run a FFXIV themed cafe in Tokyo to boot! /sarcasm

I think it's pretty telling that this so-called 'census' is nothing but chocobo dung not to be taken seriously, just like this same tired Chicken-Little mentality about the game 'dying' that keeps being spouted over and over again (since long before launch actually - really this game should have died half a dozen times by now if the doomsayers are to be believed).

The game is not failing, sure it can be improved, but articulating 'room for improvement' as 'the game is dying because not everyone is logging in 24/7/doing endgame stuff!' only invalidates the whole arguement.

But I've said enough on this subject already so I'm tired of repeating myself.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Yet somehow this game is still going strong despite it, with SE clearly making enough money from the game to run a FFXIV themed cafe in Tokyo to boot! /sarcasm

I think it's pretty telling that this so-called 'census' is nothing but chocobo dung not to be taken seriously, just like this same tired Chicken-Little mentality about the game 'dying' that keeps being spouted over and over again (since long before launch actually - really this game should have died half a dozen times by now if the doomsayers are to be believed).

The game is not failing, sure it can be improved, but articulating 'room for improvement' as 'the game is dying because not everyone is logging in 24/7/doing endgame stuff!' only invalidates the whole arguement.

But I've said enough on this subject already so I'm tired of repeating myself.

We should bump up that thread that recorded everything that said the game would die. Or did it get purged?

[Tanathya]

Yet somehow this game is still going strong despite it.

You may like the game, and it may not be dying like many people feel it is, but it's worlds away from going strong. That much is something pretty much everyone can agree on, otherwise you'd be trying to lie to yourself.

[Critical-Limit]

Totally.. NOT. In my opinion you're totally overestimating gear/rewards in terms of motivation to play a game.

You may think "I only log on, if it's beneficial regarding reward". I just think "I log on, if I want to heal/tank/dps a FF14 fight."

You're a rare breed. Most people are reward based. Don't think so?

How alive do you think this game really would be if there was no gear to get with tomes, and weeping city's only reward was story?

Weeping city would be cleared once by a lot of people with no intention of going back except to help others clear it.


Sorry but the way encounters are designed in this game makes repeats a chore. Since it won't be different the next time. I really hope they expand well on deep dungeon.

[Vantol]

Guys, guys, slow down please. This lengthy responses is impossible to read and also arguing might lead to closing this thread. And we don't want it. Afterall we are here helping developers to understand, what is wrong with this game, so they don't do same mistakes in next FF:Online.

Better discuss this:

There are a number of critical flaws within the Raiding system, and I do not speak just mechanicly or the reward system - but how we as a community have been discussing raids to begin with. This stems both from the raiding and non-raiding perspective.

Taking a singular item such as 'difficulty' without really even analyzing what 'difficult' really means in this context isn't making a constructive discussion on the matter. It's not if the Raids are difficult enough or too difficult, but the manner of 'how' these raids are difficult, that needs be discussed.

It's not whether or not there should be valuable rewards in raiding or valuable gear for raiders, but what is considered 'valuable' in and of itself and why.

This is very good thought.

[Blackcanary]

Anyone know what the topics are in the Japanese GD thread? Is there a post like this one in there?

[loreleidiangelo]

Anyone know what the topics are in the Japanese GD thread? Is there a post like this one in there?

I'd be curious to know this too, considering that if this census is even remotely accurate, the JP are the ones propping up this game's subs. Last time someone did a rough translation of their GD first page though, it was mostly stuff like minions and poses and fluff content requests.

EDIT: nm, think I misread the chart since it's all black screen/dark grey text on my mobile. Looks like the values between JP and NA aren't too far off?

REVENGE OF THE EDIT: Zosia, I don't even think you're wrong about most of the stuff you're saying, but I highly doubt Legion will yoink 150k of this game's active playerbase. Most of the people I know won't even try it because "the characters are too cartoony/ugly".

[Warlyx]

Anyone know what the topics are in the Japanese GD thread? Is there a post like this one in there?

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ッチ-コラボイベント感想スレ

38 pages of talk about Yokai watch

"Thread to write the figure of the future "do not want this happens" Final Fantasy XIV"

67 pages

and some threads about glamour , 524 pages of suggestions ,25 page about the emote ( '· ω · `) hahaha

JP forums are pretty tame compared to NA/EU , maybe they are more happy with the game , but is possible that they dont open a thread everytime some1 want to say something about how horrible or fun the game is now, or where the game is going ...or whats wrong with FFXIV...and use a just 1 thread to talk about it instead of 1000

[Zigabar]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ッチ-コラボイベント感想スレ

38 pages of talk about Yokai watch

"Thread to write the figure of the future "do not want this happens" Final Fantasy XIV"

67 pages

and some threads about glamour , 524 pages of suggestions ,25 page about the emote ( '· ω · `) hahaha

JP forums are pretty tame compared to NA/EU , maybe they are more happy with the game , but is possible that they dont open a thread everytime some1 want to say something about how horrible or fun the game is now, or where the game is going ...or whats wrong with FFXIV...and use a just 1 thread to talk about it instead of 1000

So many Dev responded threads.

[zosia]

So many Dev responded threads.

I think it's mainly because the JP forum users are much better at keeping discussion limited in single threads. Not to mention it is probably much easier for the JP community managers to relay info back and forth the with the dev team.

I am pretty sure the NA community team is based out of California.