Can't enter Palace of Dead with penalty?

[Jetstream_Fox]

So this is what happened, I queue in progress for daily expert and get stuck in a Sohr Khai run that was with 3 minutes left, party became full when I joined and 2 out of the 3 were dead at the bottom of the map against Hraesvelgr, who wasn't even at 1%, not even 10%, but 32%. So I promptly leave and figure I'd go run though PotD solo, just to find out that it's also locked because I left Sohr.

Why is PotD on the same rule restrictions when it doesn't even follow the same format or requirements as a normal dungeon? They're two individual entities, we can't even queue for PotD through DF, so why, are standard DF rules in place for entering this content?

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Because your queue prompt is what the penalty effects, which PotD still prompts despite you not going through the DF. Basically, the penalty is for anything you have to queue into.

[Jetstream_Fox]

Because your queue prompt is what the penalty effects, which PotD still prompts despite you not going through the DF. Basically, the penalty is for anything you have to queue into.

Here's how that logic doesn't work, everything in this game outside of fates and open world content is accessible through a queue. However, with a penalty, a player can still queue for a Chocobo race. This is queued instanced content as you can be matched with other players or end up against AI. There is really no excuse as to why a solo run of PotD should be impacted by content that requires 3-23 other players when it was built completely outside the fundamentals of DF based content.

[WinterLuna]

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Because the PotD system is the same whether you're queueing solo or with a group. It doesn't differentiate whether you have a penalty or not. I mean, it's just 30 minutes, if you don't want the penalty then don't leave a group.

[Jetstream_Fox]

Because the PotD system is the same whether you're queueing solo or with a group. It doesn't differentiate whether you have a penalty or not. I mean, it's just 30 minutes, if you don't want the penalty then don't leave a group.

The point isn't that I left!

It's this content shouldn't use DF rules because we don't queue through DF to start this content. Just like I said with Chocobo Races that still uses a queue, a 30 second timer and you get into a race, you have a penalty from DF, you still enter. Each category of content should come with it's own penalty, if I quit DF I get a 30 minute on dungeons, primals and raids, if quit PvP I should get a PvP lockout, if I quit PotD I get a PotD lock.

[WinterLuna]

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It's you that's completely missing the point.

Why should someone be inconvenienced and have to replace you in Duty Finder because you want to do PotD? It doesn't just affect you. Again, it's a punishment. You don't get to pick and choose what content you should and shouldn't be able to queue for with a penalty.

[DragonFlyy]

shouldn't use DF rules because we don't queue through DF to start this content.

Except it does use DF. It just doesn't get selected through the DF. It bypasses the selection screen, but shows the Commence screen of the DF. It is still using the same queue system, so those rules apply.

[Canadane]

The point isn't that I left!

It's this content shouldn't use DF rules because we don't queue through DF to start this content. Just like I said with Chocobo Races that still uses a queue, a 30 second timer and you get into a race, you have a penalty from DF, you still enter. Each category of content should come with it's own penalty, if I quit DF I get a 30 minute on dungeons, primals and raids, if quit PvP I should get a PvP lockout, if I quit PotD I get a PotD lock.

Chocobo raves start at intervals, collecting all humans for that queue at the time of the interval.
Palace of the Dead queues like DF. It isn't the same at all.

[Nicobo]

Because your queue prompt is what the penalty effects, which PotD still prompts despite you not going through the DF. Basically, the penalty is for anything you have to queue into.

I don't disagree with current setting, but still want to clarify that PvP has it's own penalty timer.. so OP can queue PvP instead of POTD...^^;

[Eul]

I don't disagree with current setting, but still want to clarify that PvP has it's own penalty timer.. so OP can queue PvP instead of POTD...^^;

Disagree, my friends got penalty and can't queue frontline.