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    CrazyBelgian's Avatar
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    Titania' Erza
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    How come some mentors think they're everything during a Duty...

    So I was doing the Vault in DF with a friend to unlock the second stage of our anima weapon. The Duty started off quite normal with the standard hello, we told both the mentor(healer) and the other person(Dragoon) to go a bit slower since I'm playing on an older laptop... Ofcourse the mentor just rushed ahead despite our warning until the first boss.

    And here it just went downhill...
    She started making us out to learn and play our classes, cursing in French (which me and my friend understood since we're Belgians) She said this: "Great now I need to play bad for some stupid kids, it sucks..." Then my friend says that she better learns her classes again, since she was just rush pulling even though we warned her not to...

    Then she just kicked me out of the Duty for no reason and continued harassing and trolling my friend who just left the Duty 5 minutes after.
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    Goodall Curie
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    Unfortunately, these are the kind of people ruining the mentor reputation. "Durr, I have a semi-exclusive mark next to my name!" Look up your chat logs for their names and report them for harassment. Both of you, what your friend's got in the log might just be the icing on the cake.
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    We both reported the person, ofcourse we had the reply from SE that thy can't give any progress because of privacy reasons. But i was at my friends place anyway so i saw the full chat after I got kicked and it was pretty laughable. We just went on after reporting. Did the DF again and got the second phase on our anima weapons.

    Now me and my friend were planning on becoming PvE mentors ourself since our FC concentrates on helping new players and generally having some fun.
    We also just help random new players with Duties and such and if they are fresh coming out of the first cutscene we just show them around.
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    Shape Esteed
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    Sad to hear this.
    The fact is the requirements to be a mentor are not that hard to achieve so many people should never be mentors will be accepted. (A.k.A Asshats)
    Mentor or not runs should be adjusted according to the needs of the party, Thank god I main the tank role and pretty much control this decision. ( i'm only as fast as my healer)
    If we wipe, I and the other party members hopefully look at what happened and learn and move on and clear the instance.

    Sadly many people who become mentors are just in it for the status symbol and probably think they are on the same level as Game Master
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    It is true the requirements to become a mentor aren't that high at all. You just need 300 recommendations, run 1000 Dungeons, Trials and/or Raids and have a tank class, a DPS class and a healer class level 60 to become a PvE mentor.

    Yet I just love to help new people, so we can try and keep the playerbase healthy since I'm not getting a lot of low lvl duties anymore if I wanted to lvl my lancer for example.
    My friend usaully runs bard and I paladin ofcourse. Now even during the Void Ark we're seeing many more salty people that complain about how someone keeps the bosses away from mages and bards so they don't get hit as hard from AoEs... Now we only do Raids with our FC and LinkShell.
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    Cipher Zaabiz
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    I experienced a lot of toxic players trash talk about my mentor crown.

    Just because as a tank I didn't pull the whole dungeon.

    Just because I don't back down when being treated as their personal slave.

    A mentor is not your personal slave nor is he / she your lackey.

    We help if it is needed but, at least I am not there to be abused.

    Mentors have a right, to enjoy the game, too. And we are not paid for our help, we do it for free.

    Be more grateful that there are people who want to help but don't ever dare to see this as a given.
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    Unfortunately your going to have 'those' people. The reason it is more common with mentor status is because some people put themselves on a high pedestal, & grow more egotistical. Also I once seen someone say on here if someone wants to become a mentor just to get the double seated mount while acting like a douche that's their right. So I guess people support this behavior hence the reason it will only get worse. I put those people on blacklist & report them hopefully they learn something, but doubtful hence my reason for not really playing much at all these days. Good luck!

    However, I have seen some very good mentors, not all of them are jerks, hopefully you get to meet the good ones as well.
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    Last edited by coco1851; 08-09-2016 at 11:01 PM.

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    People that do mentor roulette just for the achieve can be cruel I guess :/
    I did 2 mentor roulettes and got twice dungeons (Aery and Stone Vigil) and as I don't like dungeons decided to avoid it and just miss out on a grindy mount

    Did Odin for 2 friends this weekend and as Odin is defo easy enough and Mentor Roulette atleast should fill the queue we went with DF... we joked about ragequitting Mentors before but we only encountered a few sprouts and oneshot it
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    It's nice to see posts like this. And yea there are quite a lot of good mentors. Like in our Linkshell alone we got about 3 mentors that are always ready to help when the others need it. Now it has been quite peacefull in DF since everyone is grinding those Yo-kai Fates again.

    I don't want to become mentor just for the status. I love helping other people. The one new person me and my friend helped already became MNK while we were doing Duties with him together to level him and we were having a great time. It is fun to help new players and see them develop overtime. Let them be happy, don't just go all cruel on them like I have seem people do.
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    Sigh Cipher please make sure you read and understand the thread topic before posting utter and complete crap.

    They did not want the tank to speed run/pull the whole dungeon, they got abuse for refusing to go faster.

    The situation was 2 assehat players, mentor or not. Verbally insulted others and then kicked them for no good reason, both of these can be reported and should be.
    To be honest the fact they are mentors means a harsher punishment should take place. You sign up for position like this because you want to help others, because when needed you will put in more effort to help someone struggling getting the idea.

    Will I become a mentor soon probably, do I still help people? Yes, I take my role as tank seriously, even if i cannot explain mechanics( i'm really am not the best person at this, I of course will try but thank god for markers)
    I can still control the run in a way that makes it enjoyable for newer players.

    If you need an example. I Have been running POTD I asked the 2 new people if they where ok with 1 splitting up and 2 to do the floors with a fast pace( mostly me sprinting while keeping threat)
    they agreed, had they not then I would have changed the run to accommodate them, yes them not me.
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    Last edited by shape; 08-15-2016 at 11:54 AM.

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