Please consider removing Midas Savage weekly loot lock-outs with patch 3.38

[Brian_]

With patch 3.4 having an estimated release window of late September, a lot of raid groups that have only recently cleared a floor or are still progressing have very little incentive to continue raiding.

Given that guaranteed item purchases for most of the expensive pieces cost 8 manifestos, groups that won't reach 8 weeks of clears before 3.4 will be entirely reliant on RNG to get the items that they want (or the Faustlet minion). I feel this defeats the purpose of adding manifestos to begin with.

I think if the intention is to keep players playing, help existing statics stay together, and assist newly formed 3.4 statics that are trying to get a feel for raiding using current content, it's the correct decision to remove the weekly lock-outs from Midas Savage ahead of patch 3.4. At the very least, you can retain the chest system but remove individual gear/manifesto lock-outs to give the PuG and PF scene a boost.

[Brannigan]

Yeahhhh at this point it's all raiding for worthless glamour gear anyway so why not. Plus if they stick it in duty finder you won't have to waste time on the first three dudes.

[Jim_Berry]

Yeahhhh at this point it's all raiding for worthless glamour gear anyway so why not. Plus if they stick it in duty finder you won't have to waste time on the first three dudes.

I never Raided for the gear/glamour. I always did it for the sake of clearing, and because I simply like running any and all content. Heck, I still do the low-level Guildhests.

[Brannigan]

I never Raided for the gear/glamour. I always did it for the sake of clearing, and because I simply like running any and all content. Heck, I still do the low-level Guildhests.

That's good for you, because it's all you get for raiding Midas in 3.3. The gear really is pretty much worthless at this point, and the only reason to have raid lockouts is to prevent super rapid gearing. Therefore, the lockout should be removed. Maybe put a lockout on the number of Faustlets you can see drop per week if that's the big concern.

In earlier days (Coil), ID trading was very popular, to skip turns which are not needed any longer. This can save alot of time

Yeah I was actually thinking of looking into that. Maybe I'll just "accidentally" join a practice party to steal their lockout and then zone my group directly to a8s. What could possibly go wrong?

[KarstenS]

What could possibly go wrong?

As long this practise party don't down it, while you participate, nothing could go wrong, as you see at the start which turn you enter.

More nice would be just ask them to enter+exit for the ID.

[KarstenS]

Both will come with 3.4.

Please look forward to it.

[Brannigan]

Listen I have to raid tomorrow and I don't want to waste my time killing Ratfinx for stuff I can't even desynth. I want to please look forward to it tomorrow not ten billion years from now.

[KarstenS]

In earlier days (Coil), ID trading was very popular, to skip turns which are not needed any longer. This can save alot of time

[Brian_]

Both will come in 3.4 when people are busy doing new content instead.

Meanwhile, a lot of people are sitting there now with nothing to do.

My static cleared A5S-A8S yesterday and are just chillin' now. I'd love it if we could farm A5S-A8S even for just manifestos with friends.

[SpookyGhost]

Both will come in 3.4 when people are busy doing new content instead.

These are my feelings as well - Especially since, based on Gordias, Midas will be near useless due to free Lore/free upgrades from 24m/crafted gear/etc. Better for them to unlock it now and have people at least participate in the content. The only time where farming Coil was fun was when Final Coil's lockout was lifted since there was nothing else on the horizon - if (more like when tbh) they don't remove the lockout til 3.4 then what is technically new content to a lot of people will be dead on arrival.