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    Can't enter Palace of Dead with penalty?

    So this is what happened, I queue in progress for daily expert and get stuck in a Sohr Khai run that was with 3 minutes left, party became full when I joined and 2 out of the 3 were dead at the bottom of the map against Hraesvelgr, who wasn't even at 1%, not even 10%, but 32%. So I promptly leave and figure I'd go run though PotD solo, just to find out that it's also locked because I left Sohr.

    Why is PotD on the same rule restrictions when it doesn't even follow the same format or requirements as a normal dungeon? They're two individual entities, we can't even queue for PotD through DF, so why, are standard DF rules in place for entering this content?
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    Because your queue prompt is what the penalty effects, which PotD still prompts despite you not going through the DF. Basically, the penalty is for anything you have to queue into.
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    POTD is still using the Que system that the DF uses. If you have a penalty you can't do POTD.
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    Because it's a punishment for leaving, it doesn't matter what content you're trying to queue for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Because your queue prompt is what the penalty effects, which PotD still prompts despite you not going through the DF. Basically, the penalty is for anything you have to queue into.
    Here's how that logic doesn't work, everything in this game outside of fates and open world content is accessible through a queue. However, with a penalty, a player can still queue for a Chocobo race. This is queued instanced content as you can be matched with other players or end up against AI. There is really no excuse as to why a solo run of PotD should be impacted by content that requires 3-23 other players when it was built completely outside the fundamentals of DF based content.
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    PotD is DF and hence takes over the penalty even tho different requirements in party making. Also RF will lock u out I heard as it now uses DF settings (it didn't b4 RF was added so this is more a point to discuss imo).
    Even undersizing locks you out as all that works via DF.

    If it's only 3 minutes left just sit it out next time ^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Because your queue prompt is what the penalty effects, which PotD still prompts despite you not going through the DF. Basically, the penalty is for anything you have to queue into.
    I don't disagree with current setting, but still want to clarify that PvP has it's own penalty timer.. so OP can queue PvP instead of POTD...^^;
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicobo View Post
    I don't disagree with current setting, but still want to clarify that PvP has it's own penalty timer.. so OP can queue PvP instead of POTD...^^;
    Disagree, my friends got penalty and can't queue frontline.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eul View Post
    Disagree, my friends got penalty and can't queue frontline.
    As far as I know there's PvE lockout and PvP lockout which are seperate, so maybe someone has the PvP penalty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetstream_Fox View Post
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    Because the PotD system is the same whether you're queueing solo or with a group. It doesn't differentiate whether you have a penalty or not. I mean, it's just 30 minutes, if you don't want the penalty then don't leave a group.
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