Have you beaten Ifrit with nobody having sentinel in your party?

[Saomai]

With the upcoming class reform, it seems that sentinel will be a class/job exclusive ability/trait that won't be readily available to other class/job.

I wonder how is it possible to ever win the Ifrit fight without this wonderful ability. Has anyone who beat Ifrit with nobody in the party or just the tank having the sentinel ability?

From all the personal experiences, guides and video clips available, I have yet to seen anybody beating Ifrit without Sentinel. Have you? If you have, would you share how?

[Belial]

With the upcoming class reform, it seems that sentinel will be a class/job exclusive ability/trait that won't be readily available to other class/job.

I wonder how is it possible to ever win the Ifrit fight without this wonderful ability. Has anyone who beat Ifrit with nobody in the party or just the tank having the sentinel ability?

From all the personal experiences, guides and video clips available, I have yet to seen anybody beating Ifrit without Sentinel. Have you? If you have, would you share how?

The purpose of sentinel is to have less dps on the spikes for Hellfire, and more output on Ifrit himself, just making the fight shorter. You can compensate for no one having sentinel by dropping additional spikes during this phase. It'll likely extend your time in the instance, but won't require having the ability on macro.

[Rokien]

Iv beat Ifrit without having sentinel. Pretty sure I was the only one that didn't have it, I lived as well. Though, I would agree, would like to see a group do it without sentinel, because it is possible. You just have to really self manage, and have good coordination with one another after hellfire.

[Saomai]

The purpose of sentinel is to have less dps on the spikes for Hellfire, and more output on Ifrit himself, just making the fight shorter. You can compensate for no one having sentinel by dropping additional spikes during this phase. It'll likely extend your time in the instance, but won't require having the ability on macro.

I am sorry, for all the experiences I have, people usually drop one nail. Does that mean that when all nails are destroyed, hellfire won't do as much damage?

[Alerith]

I am sorry, for all the experiences I have, people usually drop one nail. Does that mean that when all nails are destroyed, hellfire won't do as much damage?

Pretty much. Each nail dropped reduces the damage from Hellfire. However, the current, commonly accepted, efficient solution is to drop one nail to reduce the damage to an acceptable level, then use sentinel to mitigate the rest.

[Estellios]

Seriously? We've been going on the information that the damage gets reduced only with 1 nail down and doesn't get reduced further till you get all 4 down.......

[Alerith]

Seriously? We've been going on the information that the damage gets reduced only with 1 nail down and doesn't get reduced further till you get all 4 down.......

From what I understand, killing two nails is only slightly better than killing just one.

Really, it wouldn't make sense. Killing one nail gives a damage reduction, killing the 2nd and 3rd don't, then killing the 4th does? Either each nail offers a slight reduction or only killing all four does.

[Technolust]

Before my static members all got Sentinel what we did was drop two nails down. After two nails are down, DPS all stack on the mage on the left side. That mage will rebuff, stoneskin, cure hp to full. Once hellfire approaches everyone that can will use rampart/defender. Right as Hellfire is started, mages just cast curaga on themselves, what will happen is hellfire will hit and immediatly afterwards curaga will land.

Our static group still does that even with every member having sentinel. We survived, we beat Ifrit.

Those that say you have to have sentinel to beat Ifrit, have no idea how to think outside of the box.

[Estellios]

That's what I figured but I was told otherwise by a friend of mine who has done the fight a million times, so I took it as fact. Ah well... at least most of my LS has sentinel now lol.

On Topic: It is certainly possible, my LS almost did it but you have to be really lucky after hellfire and the mages have to have a ton of HP+ materia on their gear and food. If he decides to Vulcan Burst immediately after hellfire there's a good chance a couple of people will drop.

He was going easy on us by dashing around a lot one run but then all 3 of the Lancers got excited and Doomspiked all at once then got all blown up. To be fair we haven't beaten it yet so it's a bit of a rush lol

[Pyretta_Blaze]

I have beaten it several times where people did not have sentinel and even more times where people who had sentinel used it at the wrong time anyway and we still won just fine. It's true that it can help but I really think that having fresh buffs up before Hellfire makes it less needed. As the DD gather together to break a nail just rebuff them and then a curaga after Hellfire and everything is peachy.

*note this is not my main, I am at work and don't bring my one-time-password thingie with me.