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    I think we should get different sets of class specific Limit Breaks instead of just one per job.
    (for example in FFVII Cloud learns Braver, Cross Slash, Climhazzard etc)

    What if we can also combine Limit Breaks with other players Limit Breaks for a super finishing combo? like its exclusive to Limit Breaks only.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrien View Post
    I think we should get different sets of class specific Limit Breaks instead of just one per job.
    (for example in FFVII Cloud learns Braver, Cross Slash, Climhazzard etc)

    What if we can also combine Limit Breaks with other players Limit Breaks for a super finishing combo? like its exclusive to Limit Breaks only.
    Awesome idea. I like that you get the difference between a WS and a limit break. Combos sounds fun!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DNO View Post
    Awesome idea. I like that you get the difference between a WS and a limit break. Combos sounds fun!
    The only difference between Cloud's "limit breaks" and FF14's "Weapon Skills" is that Cloud's limit breaks take 5 seconds or more to finish their animation. Functionally, they are the same thing: a more powerful attack performed by spending a secondary resource.

    I know what you're asking for and I understand the sentiment behind it, but you have to think about it in the context of FF14 and the differences between a single player RPG and an MMORPG.

    1. With so many people complaining about animation lag and animation lock when doing their weaponskills (Ifrit battle especially) , would a limit break that has an even longer animation work? Is it practical in an MMO?

    2. We already have a resource system that involves doing damage to fill up a meter. It's TP. Do we add yet another "limit break" resource meter in addition to TP? Do we scrap TP and just implement "limit breaks"? Do we somehow integrate limit breaks into the TP system? If so, wouldn't they just be larger weaponskills?

    3. As far as combos are concerned, we are already getting that next patch, so I wouldn't worry about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rentahamster View Post
    The only difference between Cloud's "limit breaks" and FF14's "Weapon Skills" is that Cloud's limit breaks take 5 seconds or more to finish their animation. Functionally, they are the same thing: a more powerful attack performed by spending a secondary resource.

    I know what you're asking for and I understand the sentiment behind it, but you have to think about it in the context of FF14 and the differences between a single player RPG and an MMORPG.

    1. With so many people complaining about animation lag and animation lock when doing their weaponskills (Ifrit battle especially) , would a limit break that has an even longer animation work? Is it practical in an MMO?
    Hi Renta,

    Some great questions.

    I agree that if they didn't do anything but just play a longer animation, that would be problematic in most time-critical end game situations.

    I think on a fundamental level, I personally would love to see "Super Attacks" (like Cloud's Omnislash from Final Fantasy VII), as long as they were rare.

    As to how to implement it so that you wouldn't get killed by a Boss Attack (because you're still doing an animation), SE could make it so that while someone successfully lands their "Limit Break / Super Move / Overdrive / 2 Hour" (Grand Attack), the target is locked until the animation is over.

    This is common in many videogames for a "Grapple / Link-Up" type move, so, say, the Paladin in a party lands their new "Omnislash" Super Attack: It'd lock up the target (Boss / Enemy) in hit reactions while the attack plays out, and then release once it's over.

    That way it'd solve any issues with a boss just breaking out of an attack mid-stream and doing some other attack.

    I appreciate the spectacle and grandeur of seeing stuff like Shiva's Diamond Dust, Knights of the Round, or Cloud's Omnislash, etc. These big moments are an indelible part of "Final Fantasy" for me in the past, and I'd love to see some form of this return here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrien View Post
    I think we should get different sets of class specific Limit Breaks instead of just one per job.
    (for example in FFVII Cloud learns Braver, Cross Slash, Climhazzard etc)

    What if we can also combine Limit Breaks with other players Limit Breaks for a super finishing combo? like its exclusive to Limit Breaks only.
    So your asking for more WS's? and also skillchains from XI right?
    seems you guys just dont know what its called that you want....... if your meaning a long CD strong ability to use(2 hour ish) then say it... its not a limit break
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalmore View Post
    So your asking for more WS's? and also skillchains from XI right?
    seems you guys just dont know what its called that you want....... if your meaning a long CD strong ability to use(2 hour ish) then say it... its not a limit break

    Let me elaborate.

    Limit Breaks are actions that is accessible only after certain condition is met. Whether it be taking DMG, successfully stagging the mob, fulling up a special meter bar. w/e. I'm not asking for more weapons skills. Do you understand?

    XIV can incorporate everything
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    Last edited by Andrien; 11-09-2011 at 01:24 AM.