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    Venom's Avatar
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    Omega Venom
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    Cerberus
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    Archer Lv 72

    Anima quest is too slow.

    I am all for making people work for a good weapon, but there is a difference between a decent amount of effort and slavery here. I feel I should grind out the anima since I spent millions of gill on this weapon, but 66/240... The next relic will be out before I finish this! possibly 3.4. By the time I get the weapon there will probably be a new primal that drops better. I think if each sand and umbrite gave 6 instead of 3 it would be okay.
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    FunkyBunch's Avatar
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    Imai Blackren
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    Exodus
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    Ninja Lv 71
    Ugh try the ARR Relic.
    I'm doing it for glamours and I'm stuck at Atmas. After 30 FATES in Southern Thanalan with no Atma I just about threw my controller at the wall.
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    Cnidarian's Avatar
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    Cnidaria Vaeriat
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    Excalibur
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    White Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Venom View Post
    I am all for making people work for a good weapon, but there is a difference between a decent amount of effort and slavery here. I feel I should grind out the anima since I spent millions of gill on this weapon, but 66/240... The next relic will be out before I finish this! possibly 3.4. By the time I get the weapon there will probably be a new primal that drops better. I think if each sand and umbrite gave 6 instead of 3 it would be okay.
    At that rate, are you even working on your relic? I'm at roughly the same spot as you and I'm not working on it. I've reached that spot from passively gaining ESO every now and then from things like Aquapolis and maybe doing DR Trials every few days.
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    Maero's Avatar
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    Leviathan
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Well ARR Relic was worst before all the nerfs, now it's super easy. It was also more expensive then current Relic fyi
    What they could have done with this new step of Anima was to have made different ways for the umbrite to be obtainable just like the sands, this would alleviate it taking so darn long.
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    Khuja'to Binbotaj
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    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Anima takes a long time? it's a grind? No way! we must alert the press!

    In all seriousness, it's designed that way and is actually a lot better than it used to be, my recommendation is that if you are doing an anima, don't do it for it's stats, do it because you want to have the relic weapon, it saves a lot of pain and frustration.

    The relic questlines don't need to be less grindy, they need an extra incentive that makes them special, and not just equivalent to lore/savage weapons.
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  6. #6
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    Ultima Ultima
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    Tonberry
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    If you do your dailies for one month you should have the weapon done by now. The daily roulette dungeons give about 900 eso total give or take. 26 days total by just doing dailies if you get only 3's per Umbrite.

    you need 24000 eso divide by 900 is 26 days. With bonuses you can cut 2 or 3 days off.

    on your Anima you have 19 days left if you just do daily roulette's. 3.4 will come out in November maybe December.
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    Palamula Anamaleth
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    Faerie
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    Lancer Lv 51
    Quote Originally Posted by LalafellDown View Post
    If you do your dailies for one month you should have the weapon done by now. The daily roulette dungeons give about 900 eso total give or take. 26 days total by just doing dailies if you get only 3's per Umbrite.

    you need 24000 eso divide by 900 is 26 days. With bonuses you can cut 2 or 3 days off.

    on your Anima you have 19 days left if you just do daily roulette's. 3.4 will come out in November maybe December.
    How are you getting 900 Eso? At max if you get Aethe Chemical with your lvl 60 roulette you're only getting 810ish , and that's only if you get Aeth, without Aeth it's 50 less or more, so with dailys alone youre only grabbing 2 Umbrite per day, sometimes 3 with leftover's. if theres a way to get 900 per day id love to know.
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    SilverArrow20XX's Avatar
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    Mutekimaru Godhand
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    Hyperion
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    Pugilist Lv 100
    Yeah. it's ridiculous. It's way worse than the original relic. The worst, most time consuming part of the old relic was the Alexandrite stage, which still wasn't as bad as the Unidentified items stage or the sand stage of the Anima. Sorry, but 4+ hours of dailies every day for over a month is unreasonable. All the relic steps could be completed within a week each with that amount of work. FFXIV is not a second full time job. It's a game.
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    Luna Faye
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    Leviathan
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    Weaver Lv 51
    Quote Originally Posted by Nanaho View Post
    How are you getting 900 Eso? At max if you get Aethe Chemical with your lvl 60 roulette you're only getting 810ish , and that's only if you get Aeth, without Aeth it's 50 less or more, so with dailys alone youre only grabbing 2 Umbrite per day, sometimes 3 with leftover's. if theres a way to get 900 per day id love to know.
    If we count only the tomes you get by doing the roulette itself:

    1) Expert: 60 Eso
    2) Lvl 60 : 100
    3) Lvl 50: 120
    4) Leveling: 100
    5) Trials 60
    6) Frontline: 50
    7) Mentor: 30
    Total: 520

    However the dungeons itself give after completion tomes as well that adds to the daily roulette bonus. It looks like this:

    1) Expert: 60 +80
    2) Lvl 60: 100 + 100 (if you get antitower or lost city of amdapor (hm), 60 if you get Saint Mocianne, Pharos Sirus, 30 if you get Neverreap, Aetherochemical, Fractal)
    3) Trials : 60 + 20 (some give 40 but others give 15 etc. So i went with the plain 20 tomes here)

    Excluding the Mentor roulette in this case since it's 3 pages I would have to list, that's a total of : 720

    Most of the dungeons as well as the trials have new player bonus, that's another 100 - 35 tomes (varies on dungeon/trial) on top of the daily bonus, and the completion of the dungeon.

    So yes you can get 900+ tomes a day, however it's not guaranteed 900. I would go with the 720 since that's more likely.
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  10. #10
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    Venom's Avatar
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    Omega Venom
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 72
    1) Expert: 60 Eso 30 min
    2) Lvl 60 : 100 20 min
    3) Lvl 50: 120 25 min
    4) Leveling: 100 25 min
    5) Trials 60 10 min
    6) Frontline: 50 15 min
    7) Mentor: 30 20 min
    Total: 520 220 min 250 min including queue times.

    I added the average times.. 4 hours a day ish to grind? so I have to be a video game addict to get this relic?
    The social impact on peoples life from 4 hours a day is very negative. That is just on this only.
    What if people want to do wondering or an ex primal? my guess thanks to relic, the average weekly play time will be 45hours a week. I might as well just cancel my sub if this continues.
    I don't have 4 hours a day to waste grinding like that. I can play for a couple of hours a day, I don't always want to grind mid game content to get an end game weapon.
    I guess I will have this weapon around December.
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    Last edited by Venom; 07-06-2016 at 06:51 AM.

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