As a healer, is it my job to DPS? A new perspective.

[Chevronone]

When I tank, I find that the more a healer likes to only heal - the more healing I will actually need...so strange...

(Albeit, If they're not new or genuinely new or uncomfortable with the content...it's very easy to tell this as a tank).

[Chocolys]

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Sorry I had a long post replying to you and some other peoples and then I f***** up with my browser and lost the whole thing. And I don't wish to retype it all xD

When I tank, I find that the more a healer likes to only heal - the more healing I will actually need...so strange...

(Albeit, If they're not new or genuinely new or uncomfortable with the content...it's very easy to tell this as a tank).

Well at least you're making them happy so they can enjoy casting heals

[Chevronone]

Well at least you're making them happy so they can enjoy casting heals

This would be true, except that most of the heal only healers that aren't new/uncomfortable would rather stare at the wall and watch paint dry for 75% of the run. So it'll probably interfere with them watching cat videos while in EDR...

[Feyona]

I cannot say that I am a heal only person but I do err on the side of caution. So dps alot in dungeons, but still feel unsafe in savage. I dont consider myself a bad player, my commendation maybe can attest to the fact I dont sit and watch the paint dry. An elist would call me a very bad player, but I cant help it. I try my hardest, always give my best and I know I will improve in time its often not fast enough. Yep I am slower than some at picking stuff up on the game and faster than others, thats how I understand how some struggle with stuff. I worry that too much is being expected of healers on the game and expressed it and was met with biggotry and insults for even suggesting that people shouldnt be forced to dps. Not many of you have given even a reasonable unbiased solution . Coupled withe the fact that you can onlsee one way to play thegame and its often the way that suits you but when I state I want to play my way , Its because Im lazy

[Feyona]

This game is becoming toxic like wow and I left that one cos it was literally ruled by numbers. People no longer mattered. I play to have fun with people not to be nitpicked on over parsers. Yep to some Im a bad player my timings are shit, I overheal, and dont alwys micro manage my pet. Does that mean Im carried? Not really cos the riad would die without me. Do I deserve to play? I thought so till I read some of your posts. Just wanted to add to what the guy said above. Some poeple just want to heal because they cant get the hang of dps same way some dps cant heal. Thats why they play their roles. Healers are being expect to do both at once and some are not fast enough to pull it off

[Deliciou5]

Despite everything i said previously i am a very patient and accommodating person in game. You want to only heal on nidhogg ex? Fine, please solo heal phase 1 while i focus on dps and i will backup aoe heal when appropriate and keep regen on tanks. I find it better to be accommodate people in game rather than argue with them, most people will leave a party at the hint of drama or toxic behavior, no one logs on to become berated by another player.

If you are willing to learn and improve upon yourself you have my respect and i will go out my way to help teach you. It's the players who are entitled and don't want to learn at all who are the people who make my stomache turn. The: my 15$ my way crowd. Everyone pays for the game, and everyone is working together in a group, some groups maybe want you to focus on healing while the scholar dps, maybe some groups want the whm to dps cause its only single target and the whm is more geared. Sometimes your learning a fight and your lower item level so it's better to not spam dps to keep your mp up for raising and healing only since you will be doing alot of learning. There are wide variety of scenarios.

If you are trying to learn how to be more efficient with dps while healing, i have a few pointers. Use stoneskin in cleric stance as a mock heal in case cleric stance is not ready to turn back yet. Use virus right after to buy more time even.Throw eye to eye up on every group pull for the tank. IF your whm Divine seal>med2>regen>asylum >eye to eye before going in cleric stance...you may not even need that much but i garuntee you combining that with holy bombing(stun every other holy) will significantly reduce the dmg the tank takes while doing beast dmg. Use benediction as a way to push more dps, don't switch out of cleric stance at all and use it instead of healing. If your using a controller keep tetragrammatron and other instant heals on same set of buttons as cleric stance and dps>cleric off>tetra>cleric on>dps in case of emergency.

For people who are willing to learn i show much patience to, i will sit there for hours and explain shit to you, i am a hardcore FFXI player back in the day and i understand the virtue and the rewards of patience. It's those who are entitled and don't want to practice to become better who i don't have alot of respect for.

[Cleftobismal]

If you are willing to learn and improve upon yourself you have my respect and i will go out my way to help teach you. It's the players who are entitled and don't want to learn at all who are the people who make my stomache turn.

Preach it!

[Rivxkobe]

I cannot say that I am a heal only person but I do err on the side of caution. So dps alot in dungeons, but still feel unsafe in savage. I dont consider myself a bad player, my commendation maybe can attest to the fact I dont sit and watch the paint dry. An elist would call me a very bad player, but I cant help it. I try my hardest, always give my best and I know I will improve in time its often not fast enough. Yep I am slower than some at picking stuff up on the game and faster than others, thats how I understand how some struggle with stuff.

This sounds a lot like me when I heal. I'm not that good at it and I try. People die, but I always apologize and I rarely, if every, get insulted for actually trying. I'd rather Tank than heal but I still enjoy using a healer. I find it incredibly boring to spam heals so I am always trying to learn how to better utilize my DPS skills.

I forget to use my Cards a lot and its something I am working on. lol

I worry that too much is being expected of healers on the game and expressed it and was met with biggotry and insults for even suggesting that people shouldnt be forced to dps. Not many of you have given even a reasonable unbiased solution . Coupled withe the fact that you can onlsee one way to play thegame and its often the way that suits you but when I state I want to play my way , Its because Im lazy

No one called -you- lazy. If they did its because they assumed you never DPS and never try to learn to dps and get carried through content. No one here is being bigoted. And there is not too much being expected of healers in this game, unless you believe that healers can't handle being expected to do as much as everyone else. Healers who try and healers who are not as skilled are not looked down upon by me, or many others around here. I know for sure VanilleFang and Cynfael, along with myself, would do our best to help new healers learn and understand what they can do. When I tank with a new healer in my team I do not attack them, if anything I defend them. And always offer ways to make things easier. However healers who do not try and deliberately do less because they can't be damned are a whole other story.

[Chevronone]

Nearly every post in this thread criticizing heal only healers are directed at ONE very specific type of heal only healer. Not new healers, not uncomfortable healers, not healers who are trying their hardest and just can't get a solid grasp on heal/dps...

...they're directed at skilled healers who could very easily dps, but by their own volition, would simply limit their contribution to an instance to only when the need for healing arises.

[Dsync]

So now we're onto the accusations of bigotry. We've had 'bullying' and 'intolerance', but now it's time to call other users bigots. Way to cheapen the power those words should hold.

We've been told that if we want to WORK in a group that performs as well as they can, then we should go play a singleplayer game :/

Yesterday I was in WP Hard Mode. The Healer (Scholar) did no DPS at all, in 230-60 . At the first boss they spammed Adloquium spell, and then jumped around the boss area. This is the kind of person that people here take issue with (I think). Not your learner. However, I did not want to play to their level, so I left... shocking you can do that. Arguments here would dictate that I was being forced to play with them. No one is holding a gun to anyone's head and saying "play my way, you have to!". You have a choice to be lazy, just don't expect others to waste their time on you.

Yes, I'm intolerant of those players, and I don't care. Since we're using buzzwords, apologists for this kind of lazy behaviour are the worst kind. They are actively encouraging people to be poor.