As a healer, is it my job to DPS? A new perspective.

[bounddreamer]

*Incoming Feyona post about how you are completely wrong, that she understands perfectly clearly and that you are attacking her viewpoint*

I'm pretty sure about 90% of the issue is a language barrier...

[Judge_Xero]

I'm pretty sure about 90% of the issue is a language barrier...

That is a very toxic thing to say. That people who don't comprehend things should have to DPS 90% of the time as healer without barriers.

Did I do it right?

Hehe joking aside you may be right. That's how things seem to keep going in a circular debate.

All we can really do is wait until 4.0 though to see what shape the healer meta is in for endgame and that's how things will be shaped for the rest of things. Maybe we'll just end up with a huge variety of different fight dynamics and everyone will just have to adapt to each fight and not just A = the best method. Although healer DPS will always be a thing as long as players can create downtime because a wasted GCD is a wasted GCD.

- "Tank used Hallowed Ground" - "Ok just going to see if I can get a Free Cure proc for when it wears off"

[Feyona]

"I don't believe

what does it translate to then? I dont believe means someone is telling the truth or something else? Im curious what does it mean when someone doesnt believe what you say? Does it imply your lying? Whats your interpretation? But whatever black seems to be white here whenever anyone says ive insulted people its like where? Have I called people a joke? Called them crazy, paranoid, that I live in a fantasy, that im ignorant? That anyone burdens other people? Posted animated mocking posts of anyone? No just stated the truth that amelia kicked someone or pointed out elitist words.

[Sebazy]

Elitism excludes people. We are not doing past instances. Agreed this is easier therefore healers like me can do it. Thats really good for people so more people can do it. I dont like it being made more difficult by making everyone playi optimally instead, Just because people say its the way its done.

It's not elitism. It's simply the level of skill and communication that both Gordias and Midas required within a consistent and stable group to get an early clear. It really is that cut and dry.

I'm not saying your experience is null and void, rather I'm saying that in the grand scheme of things, you've just experienced very little of the content that's caused this meta to come about.

You might not like challenging content but thankfully there's a good portion of the player base that does. Alex normal was put in for the people that don't want to put weeks of work into progression and token gear means that the most casual of players can still get decently close to optimal gear with very little raid time. Not everything needs to be dumbed down to nigh trivial levels thanks =(

You say pressure and stress from a toxic community, I say challenge and excitement with old friends and fresh faces.

[Sebazy]

Oh and I'll also add, I suspect a good chunk of the early scepticism would have come courtesy of Vlad's little run on this forum in the build up to Heavensward's release.

TLDR: He pretty much trolled every thread on here endlessly spouting on about how AST was going to make WHM redundant in the end game and such whilst cherry picking quotes and completely ignoring any logic that got thrown his way (whilst also having absolutely zero endgame experience). Needless to say, when Gordias Savage landed and it quickly became apparent that not only was AST rather lacklustre, but that it also simply didn't suit the content in the slightest right from A1S, he rather went rather quiet.

Looking back, it's actually mildly ironic that in the end, he was somewhat correct. It just happened in 3.4 instead of 3.0

[Lambdafish]

You say pressure and stress from a toxic community, I say challenge and excitement with old friends and fresh faces.

The really funny thing is that I feel like I have made common ground with a lot of people from this thread alone, and have a large respect for many new people because of it. When people band together to protect something they love, that is the opposite of toxicity.

[Feyona]

No. What you said (in my previous quote) doesn't match with what you did. This is the difference. If you want to take it as if I said you were a liar, fine.

Strange how personal this has become really all these personal judgement and assumptions about my personality because I dont like the meta being forced. I think maybe some should look at what they are saying too, and why they are saying it and why I get a barrage of personal comments from some people here. Im wondering what it is really that makes this happen when you dont agree with things and how emotionally heated people get about it when in reality I havent resorted to name calling or personal attacks on anyone. The incohence is in this entire thread and not just my supposed misunderstanding of what said or meant either. So please tell me how I have insulted in a way that is worse that what anyone has said to me.

[bounddreamer]

The really funny thing is that I feel like I have made common ground with a lot of people from this thread alone, and have a large respect for many new people because of it. When people band together to protect something they love, that is the opposite of toxicity.

I'd personally join any party finder of yours that I saw. I basically have nothing to do until Stormblood but help people and gear sixth and seventh alt jobs. And get pvp mounts. That's my last frontier.

I'm still running extreme parties because I like to help, and tank and healer jobs are most often in need. And I just plain love those fights even after doing them way too many times.

[Lambdafish]

I'd personally join any party finder of yours that I saw. I basically have nothing to do until Stormblood but help people and gear sixth and seventh alt jobs. And get pvp mounts. That's my last frontier.

I'm still running extreme parties because I like to help, and tank and healer jobs are most often in need. And I just plain love those fights even after doing them way too many times.

Same, I've been a bit inactive in game lately due to school and haven't managed to properly raid this tier (If I had one good run of A11S I could finally get that clear), and I would love to jump in a raiding party with a lot of you. You guys have taught me a lot about raiding without even partying with me, and that's an awesome thing to pick up.

[Feyona]

The really funny thing is that I feel like I have made common ground with a lot of people from this thread alone, and have a large respect for many new people because of it. When people band together to protect something they love, that is the opposite of toxicity.

Are you referring to yor likes? Why anyone could get a shitload just by insulting me alone. But do give youself a pat on the back you with the majority well done. Im protecting too, Healers right to heal as thats what I loved, playing the game for, now its not even a role, not even valued and healers are already moving off the game or being put off by the meta, and the toxicity towards those not doing it. Or even some that may have wanted to migrate here from other games see how you cant heal here. Just cos people dont speak up on here (and I dont blame them cos they get slated) doesnt mean they like dpsing their asses off you know