FFXI community/FFXIV transition my minor testiment (long post)

[Seig345]

EverQuest and FFXI both hold nostalgic memories for me in terms of community, but in terms of gameplay, I never reached further than level 24 in EverQuest or level 30 in FFXI. Even before I had a job, I simply could not avoid becoming burned out on the process of either sitting around LFG, or sitting around in a group, whacking the same monsters over and over and moving from camp to camp for a week before getting to the next smattering of story in the game. I feel as though they were designed for people who completely thrived on that community experience, letting the game's world and story serve as only the backdrop for socializing with other online gamers, but did not really suit my curiosity about the game's lore that simply could not survive the long slog between each stepping stone in the plot. I've been told by several people that I have "the patience of Job", but apparently that wasn't enough to level a job beyond level 30.

[Keramory]

whacking the same monsters over and over and moving from camp to camp for a week before getting to the next smattering of story in the game.

See this is one thing that I enjoyed about FFXI. The story I had to struggle to obtain. I realize this is not for everyone but it felt good, at least for me, to have to spend time in hell to be rewarded with the next chapter or cutscene. I love FFXIV's cutscenes but honestly I watched so many I don't recall them as I do FFXIs...despite it being years later. My gf just started a new account on FFXIV and hell if I can remember half of it. When it comes to FFXI and FFXIV in terms of lore, I would say FFXI had this game beat by a wide margin

[Blackcanary]

See this is one thing that I enjoyed about FFXI. The story I had to struggle to obtain. I realize this is not for everyone but it felt good, at least for me, to have to spend time in hell to be rewarded with the next chapter or cutscene. I love FFXIV's cutscenes but honestly I watched so many I don't recall them as I do FFXIs...despite it being years later. My gf just started a new account on FFXIV and hell if I can remember half of it. When it comes to FFXI and FFXIV in terms of lore, I would say FFXI had this game beat by a wide margin

The problem is that camping in the world not only brought life to it but it made feel like we really was living in that world. We all had to work together. The was a real buz in the world a community. Funny thing he mentions whacking the same monsters that you do that in FFXIV as well.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

See this is one thing that I enjoyed about FFXI. The story I had to struggle to obtain. I realize this is not for everyone but it felt good, at least for me, to have to spend time in hell to be rewarded with the next chapter or cutscene. I love FFXIV's cutscenes but honestly I watched so many I don't recall them as I do FFXIs...despite it being years later. My gf just started a new account on FFXIV and hell if I can remember half of it. When it comes to FFXI and FFXIV in terms of lore, I would say FFXI had this game beat by a wide margin

This was actually brought up recently in MrHappy's Monday Q&A video. He has openly expressed his preference for their to only be one mode again because having to farm normal first meant raiders saw almost every aspect of the fight and thus it didn't feel as engaging. He apparently was inundated with people claiming how much they preferred two difficulties modes due to them having no interest in Savage. They only wanted to see the story unfold. Bear in mind, MrHappy is arguably the most well known content creator for all things related to FFXIV on both Youtube and Twitch. I wager you would see far more vocal complaints if they went back than keeping things as they are now. A better comparison would be remove gear entirely from normal or make it just glamour pieces, tomes and maybe a mount to keep people running it. Let those who want the harder version to go straight into it and those wanting story to have their fight.

[Cakekizyy]

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Remove gear from Savage and see how many ppl do it just for the challenge.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Remove gear from Savage and see how many ppl do it just for the challenge.

Not from Savage, from Normal. The idea being those who want story get only that, while raiders don't have to farm an easier difficulty they would otherwise avoid. I know plenty of raiders who prefer being surprised by mechanics, which having to do a normal mode first somewhat negates.

[Cakekizyy]

Not from Savage, from Normal. The idea being those who want story get only that, while raiders don't have to farm an easier difficulty they would otherwise avoid. I know plenty of raiders who prefer being surprised by mechanics, which having to do a normal mode first somewhat negates.

My comment is for all those saying they do savage for challenge. If that is true, then they won't miss the gear.