Quote Originally Posted by Kitfox View Post
I'm not 100% if this has always been the case but I've assumed so. I've always stayed away from DF 30 mins before raid time and told my group members to do the same.
Well before Raid Finder was a thing, you could still access the raid through the open world entrance even when members had a penalty.

It just seems that implementing Raid Finder also included a stealth buff to the penalty system!