Limited Time Raid events idea

[Reinha]

I think putting resources on a new limited-time raid would be a waste, considering that not enough people do the ongoing raids. However, they could put limited-time rewards on existing raids (50 synched and 60) and this would boost participation and possibly invite more people to try it.

For fairness towards new players the rewards should IMO be given in the form of currency, so one could buy any past reward in the future. People should be able to buy one item of their choosing every event, whilst SE makes one new item per event.

[Ibi]

I think putting resources on a new limited-time raid would be a waste, considering that not enough people do the ongoing raids.

And those people who do raid are already clamoring for more permanent raiding content than we currently get.

Resources could definitely be put to better use than temporary raids.

[Moomba33]

Kinda reminds me of the modified Primal fights they have for people at Fanfest where players get a T-shirt or such for winning.

Anyway I don't see SE spending resources on limited events that not everyone can participate in. My understanding is that the people at Fanfest are given preset characters to complete the fights. In game special events tend to be low level in ARR areas so even new players can participate.
The highest I can remember a special event going was the Lightning Returns event where the last chapter required your character to be in the low 40s IIRC.

[bass9020]

For fairness towards new players the rewards should IMO be given in the form of currency, so one could buy any past reward in the future. People should be able to buy one item of their choosing every event, whilst SE makes one new item per event.

The whole point is for people who are ready for raiding not new players. Can anything be focused on current players who are leveled/geared enough for said content? New players have enough to worry about.

[Brannigan]

The whole point is for people who are ready for raiding not new players. Can anything be focused on current players who are leveled/geared enough for said content? New players have enough to worry about.

Nope! The name of the game is attracting as many new players as possible while giving current players juuuuust enough to keep them from cancelling their subscription. That's why Palace of the Dead was made for level 17 newbies who don't hit a button every GCD and all the monsters in it die in 3 hits. It's also why every seasonal event is as boring as possible and focuses on low level FATEs and doing "talk to this person 3 times" quests. Anyone in full 240 (which at this point should be literally everyone who has been playing the game for the last 2 months thanks to welfare upgrade items) should expect basically no content that actually makes use of their current gear, because the easy mode raid will drop higher item level stuff.

[Reinha]

The whole point is for people who are ready for raiding not new players. Can anything be focused on current players who are leveled/geared enough for said content? New players have enough to worry about.

Are you saying new players are too stupid to raid or what? When I said new I meant people who start the game later than now, which would lock them out of rewards simply for being here at the wrong time. They will be ready to raid one day. All I suggested was allowing people to not miss out on a specific reward they really like just because they weren't playing or raiding as of today. Everyone would still only get one reward per raid event in my suggestion, as they would have to give up the newest reward to get an older one. You would still be ahead if you started doing the events sooner rather than later.

[bass9020]

Are you saying new players are too stupid to raid or what? When I said new I meant people who start the game later than now, which would lock them out of rewards simply for being here at the wrong time. They will be ready to raid one day. All I suggested was allowing people to not miss out on a specific reward they really like just because they weren't playing or raiding as of today. Everyone would still only get one reward per raid event in my suggestion, as they would have to give up the newest reward to get an older one. You would still be ahead if you started doing the events sooner rather than later.

Where did I ever say new players were stupid??? All I said was can any events/content be focused on the ready current players. Nothing is substantial for us we always get the hand me downs. I guess thats what we get for being the dedicated player base that keeps the game going.

[Reinha]

Where did I ever say new players were stupid??? All I said was can any events/content be focused on the ready current players. Nothing is substantial for us we always get the hand me downs. I guess thats what we get for being the dedicated player base that keeps the game going.

"New players have enough to worry about" sounded pretty condescending to me, as if them being new was a reason to not care that they might also want to take part and get those rewards later. How exactly is it "hand me downs" if you make the reward system inviting also to new raiding players, so no one is missing out? It's like people see the words new player and immediately cry fowl even though I didn't ask for nerfs or level 17 raids. It's end game content for end game players, except the rewards are motivating to future end game players as well while at the same time remaining somewhat exclusive. What's so wrong with focusing on everyone instead of the small amount of players who are ready, willing and available to raid just this moment? I don't want another Lightning / seasonal event / promotion fiasco (you have lost your chance to get the items), but rather something like veteran rewards (you are behind but can get the items eventually). The former does not motivate a player to become a long term player, whereas the latter does.

[bass9020]

"New players have enough to worry about" sounded pretty condescending to me, as if them being new was a reason to not care that they might also want to take part and get those rewards later. How exactly is it "hand me downs" if you make the reward system inviting also to new raiding players, so no one is missing out? It's like people see the words new player and immediately cry fowl even though I didn't ask for nerfs or level 17 raids. It's end game content for end game players, except the rewards are motivating to future end game players as well while at the same time remaining somewhat exclusive. What's so wrong with focusing on everyone instead of the small amount of players who are ready, willing and available to raid just this moment? I don't want another Lightning / seasonal event / promotion fiasco (you have lost your chance to get the items), but rather something like veteran rewards (you are behind but can get the items eventually). The former does not motivate a player to become a long term player, whereas the latter does.

If you think that sounds condescending then I don't know what to tell you. Goodbye.