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  1. #11
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    Fenral's Avatar
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    I'd like Shadow of Mhach to be the raid that proves that "status quo" doesn't have to mean "kill 'em all." I think between Crystal Tower and Heavensward, they've pretty much run out of heroic sacrifice cards to play, so hopefully Cait Sith will get a "see you next time" sort of resolution and not "goodbye forever." Mhach isn't Allag, after all, so there's no risk to the MSQ.

    But not holding my breath.
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    Cait sith is going to jump into the robot suit again and blast off into the FF7 remake lol. There's the new event tie-in.
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  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenral View Post
    I'd like Shadow of Mhach to be the raid that proves that "status quo" doesn't have to mean "kill 'em all." I think between Crystal Tower and Heavensward, they've pretty much run out of heroic sacrifice cards to play, so hopefully Cait Sith will get a "see you next time" sort of resolution and not "goodbye forever." Mhach isn't Allag, after all, so there's no risk to the MSQ.

    But not holding my breath.
    I am kind of hoping he will stick around with the sky pirates.
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    I don't trust Cait Sith in FFXIV. He's too convienient.
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  5. #15
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    Trpimir Ratyasch
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    I'm expecting Cait Sith to die from inexperience with the Nullstone; he'll have to overload it to banish Scathach and, being an unexperienced magical familiar, the power will be too much for him to handle and he'll finally... be unmade.

    ... you know, even if Cait Sith is just a magical familiar without much characterization, I hope SE does betray my expectations on this...
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    But how else will we understand the cost of our battle? /dramaticswoon

    Seriously though, it's hard to fault people in Eorzea for not doing the right thing more often when the "right thing" is almost invariably depicted as altruistic suicide.
    We can all benefit from building a better world. Enlightened self-interest, it's a thing.
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    Perhaps it's just because Wings of the Goddess had an absolutely horrendous timetable for story quests, but I don't really recall Cait Sith being particularly interesting at all... Mysterious cat with some clones, only really entertaining when playing off Lilisette (which reminds me, why is human/elf cross-breed the only thing SE does?)... Naturally though, XIs should be more interesting that XIVs just because XIs was effectively a main story character, XIVs is a side story character... I find XIVs more interesting though, just because he is effectively the sole survivor of Mhach (more interesting than "Altana is a mad cat lady", IMO) and actually accompanying us through the raid was an easy way to skyrocket my opinion of the little furball... Those little comments throughout the raid provide far more character than some obnoxious speech quirk, IMO...
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    Yeah I get they're different sith (ha...sith) but this one, FFXI or not, is boring. We already have a few bland nerd characters as it is, having some fault or character would have gone a long way.
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  9. #19
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    For the repeated heroic sacrifices, I'm chalking it up to the fact this is a Japanese game. Even though the setting is quite Western (I think? Ul'dah definitely is... and Ishgard is quite English... the other two I'm not too sure), the collectivist social attitude will still bleed through by virtue of this and as such heroic characters will never put their own interests ahead of the collective (a.k.a. greater) good.

    Nearly every hero that has died has done so in defense of the greater, collective good. "Look to those who walked before to lead those who walk after," after all. No sacrifice is too great in the name of the greater good... even though "sacrifice" is often tantamount to suicide and the repeated sacrifices are slowly shredding up the hearts of those who still live. The WoL's PTSD is borderline canon at this point... even though we managed to save Estinien, there's no telling how long that brighter mood will last if 4.0 is going to be war for Ala Mhigo's liberation.

    The one exception to this may be Haurchefant, who seems to have taken the bullet for you out of personal affection and nothing more, and his death was completely senseless. No doubt why it had such a bigger impact on me compared to the others...


    As for why half-elves (human / elf) are the only biracial... race? Characters? Ahh, whatever... half-elves show up instead of anything else because they're the easiest to model. Take elf ears or pointy human ears and stick them on a human model. That's all they did for Hilda - besides the pseudo-elezen ears, she's got a normal Midlander Hyur female model. And that's assuming they bother with a unique model for half-elves at all - Arator the Redeemer, the half-elf son of Turalyon and Alleria from World of Warcraft, just uses a normal elf model. It should also be noted that half-elves are a Dungeons and Dragons staple, from which a lot of fantasy games draw inspiration, so there is precedent for it. (Half-elves make great spoony bards!)

    A biracial character from most any other coupling would require either a unique model or genetics to be handwaved and just saying "[Race A] x [Race B] always produces [Race (A/B)]," i.e. "Roegadyn x Lalafell always produces Lalafell."
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  10. #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    For the repeated heroic sacrifices, I'm chalking it up to the fact this is a Japanese game.
    I thought that. For a long time, actually. Maybe nearly drove myself crazy turning the idea over in my head and asking myself if the problem is just that I'm too naive and selfish to understand the nobility of it all. As it turns out, for all the value Japanese media tends to place on sacrifice, there's also a goodly amount of criticism and deconstruction of that psychology going on as well (Yuki Yuna and Rampo Kitan come to mind, plus basically anything else directed by Seiji Kishi, including the latest Danganronpa anime). There's really no other country on the planet that has seen both sides of that coin in the same way Japan has.

    But hoo, boy did we take that in a dark direction. Cait Sith will be fine. I'm actually hoping he pulls a Reeve out of his proverbial hat and fakes us out with a, "You didn't think that was my main body, did you?" gag.
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    Last edited by Fenral; 08-15-2016 at 05:27 AM.
    あっきれた。

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