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    [REQUEST] Resume crafting progress when disconnected

    As someone who has the misfortune of having an intermittent internet connection, it concerns me how there are no safeguards to crafting when a person gets disconnected. I can see how simply reclaiming the materials can't work, as such a feature can be easily exploited, but can we get something in place so that crafting progress can be resumed? We have a similar thing in place right now with Chocobo Porters so I'd like to think that the framework is there.

    Please please PLEASE make this happen! Materials for endgame crafting are incredibly expensive! Having to constantly fear the loss of materials really puts a damper on the experience.
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    This has been a request for ages. I don't think we will ever see it anytime soon. Due to some server side resources or something to the latter.
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    They explicitly prevented this to stop people disconnecting if a craft looked like it would fail to be HQ, thus allowing a second chance. It will not be implemented any time soon, if ever, due to that plus how the system works. It's just not set up to allow things like this & would require a complete rebuild to do so - something even more major than the death of 1.xx.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Culfinrandir View Post
    They explicitly prevented this to stop people disconnecting if a craft looked like it would fail to be HQ, thus allowing a second chance. It will not be implemented any time soon, if ever, due to that plus how the system works. It's just not set up to allow things like this & would require a complete rebuild to do so - something even more major than the death of 1.xx.
    It would require an overhaul, but it wouldn't allow a free second chance based on what I see the OP asking for. The OP appears to be asking for the ability to reconnect in the middle of crafting right where you leave off if disconnected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aesteval View Post
    It would require an overhaul, but it wouldn't allow a free second chance based on what I see the OP asking for. The OP appears to be asking for the ability to reconnect in the middle of crafting right where you leave off if disconnected.
    It would require an overhaul so extensive that it would be a new game as the server-client connection would have to be delay less. It just can't happen. It would also allow exploits due to this 'advanced' server-client connection via software performing 'man in the middle' functions. That's why crafting is the way it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Culfinrandir View Post
    It would require an overhaul so extensive that it would be a new game as the server-client connection would have to be delay less. It just can't happen. It would also allow exploits due to this 'advanced' server-client connection via software performing 'man in the middle' functions. That's why crafting is the way it is.
    Like I said, it would require an overhaul. However the current option is to risk losing rare and expensive mats due to a disconnect outside of a player's control. That doesn't seem like a great option either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aesteval View Post
    Like I said, it would require an overhaul. However the current option is to risk losing rare and expensive mats due to a disconnect outside of a player's control. That doesn't seem like a great option either.
    I fully understand but it's just not possible. I would love to have a device that plugs into my brain stem & takes me to Eorzea (virtually) but that too is not possible at this time. It's not that I disagree with the intent or desire but it's asking for what, at the moment, we have been told is impossible in FFXIV. It's basically screaming into the void.
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    I'm not sure why this would require an overhaul at all. It's not like crafting is processed client-side first and tells the server the results. You press the button, the server is told what you pressed and then sends back the results. All the server has to do is hold on to is the item id, three progress stats and your CP. This is information it already has in temporary storage before a disconnect.
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    Last edited by Dustytome; 08-17-2016 at 11:48 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dustytome View Post
    I'm not sure why this would require an overhaul at all.
    Try this out - craft an item & then immediately disconnect. It's likely that the item no longer exists in your inventory, nor do the materials you crafted with. What you propose sounds logical & a simple fix but it's not how the game works, otherwise they'd implement it. They've said numerous times that the system is currently running on a knife-edge balance between playability & keeping the server-client in sync. The proposal to make crafts recoverable from interruption would knock the balance off & create an unplayable game.

    The only other way would be to have a separate sync for crafting only, via a new client, in personal instanced zones. The server overhead for this would be immense & would require a significant increase in subscription costs at the very least.

    To reiterate - from what we know it's just *not possible* with the current system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Culfinrandir View Post
    I fully understand but it's just not possible. I would love to have a device that plugs into my brain stem & takes me to Eorzea (virtually) but that too is not possible at this time. It's not that I disagree with the intent or desire but it's asking for what, at the moment, we have been told is impossible in FFXIV. It's basically screaming into the void.
    Screaming into the void has uses though. Might make someone keep it in mind for the future or "next time." It's a user unfriendly design aspect and as much as I understand why it's set up this way (it has bad potential for exploit otherwise,) scream scream scream.
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