What are your views on camping over others?

[Murugan]

@Murugen.
Just 2 things.

1. This wasn't posted for trolling. Nothing was posted to *bait in* your LS in any way.
2. I really like how you ignored the 'please keep it in-game'.

Good job, bro.

Keep what in game? There is nothing to discuss other than this thread which was apparently made after Agate here "practiced MPK'ing" on a group with some of our members. If you are trying to pretend that there is some kind of drama between our linkshells over it you are blowing it way out of proportion.

This has nothing to do with our linkshell I was responding to his baiting that "we bring things up after they have been settled" while in the same post saying "Anyway, I do in some situations MPK people if I can, and it's a skill that I practice the same way that I practice out-camping and soloing."

Except no one brought up anything up about the incident except him, he posted a topic and we responded totally unrelated. I don't even know if Akk or Deceptistar were in that group on Monday. I wasn't, and I didn't even know about it until I asked after seeing his latest post. So in retrospect this whole thread seems like a pretty clear example of baiting to me.

He posted the OP, and lay in wait for one of our people to respond. Then jumped all over them. First at me when I was clearly not quoting him, that failed (was a pretty wide shot too since I actually quoted the person I was responding to, just drips of desperation for some drama).

So then he went after deceptistar's completely reasonable and absolutely non-dramatic post which again had nothing to do with Monday's incident and was just responding to the topic of this thread.


Other than that purpose of this thread, I guess it is just to let everyone know that Agate might feel like "practicing his MPK skills" on them. That's cool, still doesn't involve our LS.

I got one for you: Please keep it out of game. I didn't know either of you two were on my server until this thread, and I thought I knew quite a few people. I obviously have no personal beef with either you of not knowing that we were on a server together. I don't want this garbage bothering me while I'm trying to play and enjoy the game. He/you wants to play at drama do it on the forums by all means.



Agate likes to "practice his MPK'ing skills" in random situations, and posted this to bait our members then tried to manufacture drama as if there were some big incident where in he "totally MPK'd the crap out of us" lol.

So I'm gonna have to disagree, I think it is pretty clear this was a bait thread, and again this is a pretty pathetic attempt at manufacturing drama as drama goes.

[ApplePie]

145% of people in this thread will ragerage if someone camps on top of them. My math is flawless. Don't judge.

[Agate]

@ Mewnoa - Thanks but stay out of it.

@ Murugan - Check the post times, this thread was actually made before the incident with your LS members. This thread was made in response to a very exciting day, not anything else. And of course I know when Triple Spark jumps in and starts mentioning MPK when it wasn't even a topic it was directed at me. Not to mention in the end we raised that party and saved them from a wipe.

[Wynn]

Wow some people are incredibly pathetic.

Do the world a favor and take a long walk off a short peer, OP.

[Murugan]

@ Mewnoa - Thanks but stay out of it.

@ Murugan - Check the post times, this thread was actually made before the incident with your LS members. This thread was made in response to a very exciting day, not anything else. And of course I know when Triple Spark jumps in and starts mentioning MPK when it wasn't even a topic it was directed at me. Not to mention in the end we raised that party and saved them from a wipe.

I think you are a little full of yourself. I didn't even notice about the "incident" until I mentioned this thread, and MPK was mentioned quite a few times in this thread so I doubt decep was referring to you. No matter how much you want to believe that you "ruffle our feathers" or whatever.

The only thing I got out of this thread is that you:

I had a fun day today, filled with adventure, excitement, a sense of being the best, and a sense of being a jerk. All of these feelings came from competing with others for claim over a mob, and how those people responded in turn. So I'm very curious about how you feel about camping over others, and the various scenarios that you might base your decisions off of. I want to see where everyone sits on this one. Discuss! And keep it civil.

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You guys have a habit of bringing things up after they've supposedly been settled... Anyway, I do in some situations MPK people if I can, and it's a skill that I practice the same way that I practice out-camping and soloing. That's no secret. If you want to talk about it any more let's just keep it in-game.

Which makes you sound kinda pathetic. But you aren't in our LS you can play however you want to. If you want to gain a reputation as the best jerk on the server, who has mastered the skill at trying to piss people off go right ahead.

It's my experience that doesn't work out that great in the end. I'll just reiterate what the rest of people in our LS said, competition has its place in PvE endgame. However being a jerk needlessly is well... kinda pointless. We don't make it a habit to camp steal, MPK, or be dicks to other linkshells or groups. If you'd like to be a "nemesis" who shrugs off notions of common decencies at least we know when you come running at us with a group of mobs what your intentions are.

[Agate]

"I'm not going to misconstrue what you said through quotes." *Proceeds to do exactly that." That's cool.

[RedAffinity]

I don't understand this mentality.

It's not ok to compete for xp but it's ok to compete for anything else in a game?

Because generally a decent camp supports 1 party for EXP worth the time spent. If another party insists on fighting for enemies, there's downtime, not enough enemies to supplied for both teams, and neither party is really productive. It's completely ignorant to ignore this fact.

There are also two types of players. Ignoring the shades of gray and focusing on the extremes, some players try to be courteous, others don't give a ****. Either player type is fine, i'm just telling you that because of the explanation above, it's generally common courtesy to seek another camp when one is taken.

[Crica]

Because generally a decent camp supports 1 party for EXP worth the time spent.

Worth it for whom? The player who prefers to compete in a game or the player who prefers not to compete in a game?

Sorry, but "worth" is subjective and not a concrete reason for "xp" not being ok for competition in a game.

For example: Two players are competing for an NM. It may take hours for one of the players to actually out-claim the other player and then finally get the RNG drop.

Those same two players are competing for XP. It may take hours for one of the players to actually out-claim the other player and then finally get some XP.

[Issachar]

MPK'ing is for the desperate and underskilled, in my honest opinion. There's better ways to show superiority than being a pest.

If someone tries to take over your camp, do what I do. Go MRD and destroy everything until they leave.

If you're trying to take over someone's exp camp, then you are what's wrong with the playerbase. There's no excuse to do it, regardless of whether you feel that it's justified.

[Agate]

I've had a tell, a lodestone comment, and a thread comment from you. I'll post something in here so the most people can see. ^^

I first started MPKing when JP groups consistently outcamped me in areas I had occupied first. I was frustrated because I thought there was nothing I could do against their superior connections. Then I became a much better camper, and I stopped MPKing for that reason, I simply outcamped people. Now I typically only MPK people in response to them trying it on me. I have never thought it to be a particularly "right" thing to do, it's just what I do. It takes as much practice as anything else since you can easily die trying. I do not MPK people to be a pest or show superiority. It's not as exciting as you make it out to be, but that's how it is. I hope this clears some things up, and anyone who still gives me a hard time is probably just doing it on purpose. ^^