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  1. #1
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    Aleczan's Avatar
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    Aleczan Knighthill
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    I found communication and polite approach to be the best way to both avoid conflict and to create friendly atmosphere in the game. It never hurts to be kind, friendly, and polite. Yesterday I ran into another party who wanted the same NM as my party.


    Long story, our friend just got to LNC25 and could use an Eternal Shade so we headed for that NM at Camp Tranquil. My BF arrived first and saw the NM and was asking us how close we are so he could start fighting it to speed up the process. Our friend was a bit far because he has no chocobo, but I was in the claim range (I was PT leader so he had to wait for me no matter what) so he grabbed the NM anyway. He also told me there’s a person just arrived there and eyeing the NM.

    He killed NM, no drop. He said more people came and it seems like this party also want the NM, so we might need to compete. They didn’t talk. Then I arrived at the scene on my chocobo, both them and my BF were standing around waiting for the NM to pop. After a while next one popped and I claimed it, and we killed it very fast.

    At that point one of them flipped;

    TheGuy: Fuck you dude we just need the damn NM for our quest.
    Me: Oh you could have said so.
    MyBF: You could’ve asked, jerk.
    Me: How could I magically know that?
    Lalafell: Sorry you want gear?
    Me: Yes we’re for the Shade body armor.
    Lalafell: Can we kill one for our quest?
    Me: Sure.
    Lalafell: Thanks.
    MyBF: You can because you’re nice and asked.
    TheGuy: sry
    MyBF: Fuck off TheGuy. I don’t care for your attitude.
    MyBF: You’re lucky you have nice friends.


    I actually felt a bit embarrassed and felt sorry for the guy that my BF didn't accept his "sry" and made it clear he's not forgiving. Personally I am fast to accept apology, but I would understand why my BF made that stand. It's hard to feel friendly towards someone whose first reaction when he's displeased is to throw insult at people. Had he not throwing insult like that, there would be no unnecessary argument and no hurt feelings.

    It's nice and easy to be friendly and just ask first. By asking, I don't mean asking for permission. NM does not belong to anyone. It's rather asking for cooperation, or a little bit of hospitality. Asking politely will, more often than not, ensure that the other party will not try to compete or interfere with your NM, and thus allows you to get it done easier, faster.

    I personally feel that being competitive doesn't require hostility. So when you see a chance to show friendliness even towards your competitor, you should do so. Kindness can go a long way.
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    Last edited by Aleczan; 11-08-2011 at 10:32 PM. Reason: typo

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    Lebannen Nox
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    When it comes to xp parties we move on, but NMs and stronghold when we need the drop we will either compete or make a deal with the other group.
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    There is 2 reasons to play a game with other people:

    1) Cooperation (lol)

    2) COMPETITION <- this is the fun one

    I don't want to play communist fantasy xiv.

    Competition plz.
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    While competing can be exciting at times, it doesn't really serve a justifiable place in a non-PvP game.

    Cooperating is soooooo much more efficient and proves that there are still decent people on the internet.
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    Vaxis Roma
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    Yeah if it's just camping some mobs, my friends and I wont care if someone strolls up, or if we see someone camping an area we want. We just stroll along or something. Unless its a damn quest area. I had a quest where I had to kill the floating eye things in Nanawa Mines... Like huge camp just wiping everything every time - guess I cant finish that! haha. We went in to kill a few and proceeded to be made fun of. haha.

    And NMs... We were doing the Ifrit Bleeds quest where you have to kill the NMs. This dude killed Nest Commander like 10 times as we all watched. After the 10th we figured we would just spam emote him until he got the message. I think it finally clicked and he laughed and ran away.

    I can see some people getting pissed at some of the things I've encountered, but it's a game, just laugh at it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by zed32 View Post
    Yeah if it's just camping some mobs, my friends and I wont care if someone strolls up, or if we see someone camping an area we want. We just stroll along or something. Unless its a damn quest area. I had a quest where I had to kill the floating eye things in Nanawa Mines... Like huge camp just wiping everything every time - guess I cant finish that! haha. We went in to kill a few and proceeded to be made fun of. haha.

    And NMs... We were doing the Ifrit Bleeds quest where you have to kill the NMs. This dude killed Nest Commander like 10 times as we all watched. After the 10th we figured we would just spam emote him until he got the message. I think it finally clicked and he laughed and ran away.

    I can see some people getting pissed at some of the things I've encountered, but it's a game, just laugh at it!




    I had a similar event but I had help with the NM I needed to kill. I'm still short of finishing the mission/quest but the Lalafellas who helped me were the best.
    Thank you for a memorial story!
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    Last edited by PSxpert2011; 11-09-2011 at 01:52 AM. Reason: added content


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    Ignoring everyone responses before I post: It goes with the territory!

    _If you can't handle camping over or being camped over, I guess you suck in real life too.
    _The development team can provide a big enough world with as much locations to camp but will not be able to serve everyone's needs and wants.
    _It's part of the fun because you actually interacting with the game, if not just the game... well, with other players. Laugh and have a good time being frustrated or annoyed. =P

    You said it yourself and I hope people can relate: You felt excitement, filled with adventure and a sense of being the best (or worse jerk). That's what FFXIV should inspire the most, the feeling of LIFE.
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    ~'\[[_LEGACY_]]/'~
    TENTs because solo-friendly content forces me to want one!
    (HP + Instantly logout anywhere)

    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/my/
    *Excalibur* Nation: Limsa Laminsa

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    Quote Originally Posted by PSxpert2011 View Post
    Ignoring everyone responses before I post: It goes with the territory!

    _If you can't handle camping over or being camped over, I guess you suck in real life too.
    _The development team can provide a big enough world with as much locations to camp but will not be able to serve everyone's needs and wants.
    _It's part of the fun because you actually interacting with the game, if not just the game... well, with other players. Laugh and have a good time being frustrated or annoyed. =P

    You said it yourself and I hope people can relate: You felt excitement, filled with adventure and a sense of being the best (or worse jerk). That's what FFXIV should inspire the most, the feeling of LIFE.
    If you need to act like a jerk in some video game just to feel alive you should take a look at the way you are living your life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Murugan View Post
    If you need to act like a jerk in some video game just to feel alive you should take a look at the way you are living your life.
    I wonder if that was directed at me. Don't misconstrue what I said through a quote in a quote.

    Edit: @ the post below me - cool cool thanks for the response. Just had to ask.
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    Last edited by Agate; 11-09-2011 at 05:22 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agate View Post
    I wonder if that was directed at me. Don't misconstrue what I said through a quote in a quote.
    I've known Murugan for a couple of years and he isn't that round-about or sneaky. If his message was directed at you, I'm sure he would have quoted your original post and bolded the part he was specifically responding to.
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